Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q49,92

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4992. Q4992/Q49,92Non-molecular Trotskyism is over -> the most generous interpretation of Trotskyism. probably too generous. but very useful for getting political-agorists to actually think for once

Molecular Trotskyism

4992. Q4992/Q49,92Non-molecular Trotskyism is over / (9k) -> all right, let's unpack what a molecular Trotskyism is. a molecular Marxism:
      A) considers itself as a material object among other material objects that it may not be able to control
      B) includes a fine-grained small-scale theory (molecularized model) of the society covered by the molecular Marxism, appropriate to the stage of development society is going through
      C) represents historical periods as sequential or parallel material objects with the aid of small-scale models of how they cohere together, such that comprehending situations like Stalinists and Trotskyism becomes easier and more intuitive in that their behavior is comprehensible and their interactions — usually hostile in this case — are easier to understand
      D) has a sufficiently fine-grained and precise model of history to be able to represent different philosophical factions or different kinds of trajectories of how history develops "impartially" ­— here, it's more important to "eliminate prejudice" against the possible outcome of revisionism or counterrevolution than it is to "eliminate prejudice" against the possibility of, for instance, Stalin's Marxism or Hoxhaism being right; the idea of prejudice here is aimed at gaps in Materialist reasoning and failures to model reality, not some abstract Ideal of tolerance
      E) replaces nebulous Idealist models of society with material models of society so that conflicts between different groups of people or different factions become moot (hopefully.) because both groups of people are understanding the actual processes that bring people together and keep society from falling apart through the lens of material models; a molecular Marxism is supposed to be able to moot the borders between Marxism and anarchism, or somehow solve the border between Stalinists and Trotskyism
      F) acknowledges the existence of multiple theoretical tendencies or "Marxisms" in order to prepare for the day that separate tendencies or parties will fuse, that multiple areas of workers protecting themselves from empire will stand together instead of apart, and that hopefully a greater enduring structure of some kind is formed (i.e., the Communist International) that won't break apart again
      G) is completely conscious of itself and its structure as either a tendency-object or workers'-state object, at least to the full extent it could possibly need to be
1992. Q1992/Q19,92molecular Marxism / molecularized Marxism / (9k) -> a molecular Marxism is an apparent form of Marxism that is also actually Marxism ... once you get a molecular Marxism, it's completely conscious of itself, or at least it's conscious of itself to the full extent it could possibly need to be. ... when Trotsky asks workers' states to understand the effect of foreign trade from capitalist countries going into the Soviet Union (for instance) and affecting its internal network of production structures, he is making a step toward meta-Marxism / molecular Marxism. ... having a good foundation for understanding the socio-economic structure of workers' states in transition, like in Marx's Capital, is a good step toward taking a particular Marxist movement and making it into a molecular Marxism; Marxism in general becomes meta-Marxism if you really do it right. ...
4992. Q4992/Q49,92molecular Trotskyism / A) ... considers itself among other material objects that it may not be able to control -> Trotsky's writings in 1938 address the physical division between Trotskyists and Stalinists, and Trotskyists and "the union bureaucracy". any Trotskyist ally that can't physically sort out Trotskyism from bourgeois labor parties and union leadership is probably going to create a failed movement. so, yes, a "non-molecular Trotskyism" that fails to understand material contradictions is doomed.
4992. Q4992/Q49,92molecular Trotskyism / B) includes a fine-grained small-scale theory of the society covered ... appropriate to the stage of development society is going through -> this part gets weird because for Trotskyists, the society they seek to model almost strictly doesn't exist. a model appropriate to Trotskyist society's current stage of development is a model of joining together workers to be able to resist initial class rule by union leadership, capitalists, and historically, the Soviet bureaucracy.
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Ideologies or fields

83. Q83/Q83MN (pronounced early Marxism) / dialectical materialism
4104. Q4104/Q41,04IV (pronounced Fourth) / Trotskyism