User:RD/9k/assertion real thing is fictional (Q30,54)

Main entries

3054. 3054

      assertion real thing is fictional

      / assertion that real thing appearing in fiction is instead fictional / England is made up (Get Fuzzy) [1]
3060. 3060

      assertion description of an identity is not real

      / assertion that traits fitting a real-world demographic identity are not real / identity erasure (fiction and media criticism)

Cases

3061. 3061

      what if men could date men??

      / what if men could be in relationships with men?? / what if women could date women?? / slash (motif of homosexuality being a fictional construct) / I know I wrote a gay fanfic, but there's no way I could be a lesbian (generic) -> the fictional motif of insinuating a lack of understanding that homosexuality is real by claiming that it is an invented fictional concept.
3064. 3064

      you think The Matrix is trans??

      / The Matrix was wild! ...it's trans? / cis people relating to The Matrix but claiming it is not about transgender identity / cis people claiming The Matrix is about becoming a Tory but isn't about gender identity (red pill; redpilled) -> on one hand this is gross. on the other hand, viewed from a larger context it's just really, really weird. like, can somebody be charcoal-pilled, or orange-pilled? could you go around claiming The Matrix is about becoming a Trotskyist or an anarchist but isn't about being trans? Trotskyists totally feel like the way they see the world is the real model of the world, just like Tories do. do Tories even think about that.
3062. 3062

      Spongebob is sexless

      / Spongebob is asexual (ecology definition, not queer theory definition) / I don't know, that's just Kirby -> there is a very complicated distinction between the way people talk about gender when they have no idea what it is at all, and how they talk about it when they actually know what a transgender person is instead of not knowing. saying that Kirby is "sex unknown" or "gender unknown" is more likely to mean "I genuinely haven't thought about it, I don't know anything on the subject and I don't know where to start" than "I think Kirby could actually be neither male nor female". "neither male nor female" is a really hard concept for normal people to understand if they've never heard of it before. it's easy to create a fictional trope accidentally just by combining concepts but that doesn't equate to an understanding that such a thing is real. (just look at the difference between A/B/O and understanding what transgender people are, and you'll understand it almost exactly.) likewise, people can come to understand that animals in nature can have unusual sex configurations, having both gametes or reproducing asexually, but they tend to be bad at internalizing what that means, and to remain at a totally baseline lack of understanding of what gender is.
3063. 3063

      medicine cat? medicine men don't even exist

      / Warrior cats is so unbelievable, I mean, medicine men don't even exist -> the motif of somebody failing to even recognize that a fantasy book is based on an older form of society and proceeding to bash real-world people-groups for bad worldbuilding. it's like there are at least two levels of racism. one is where you know Native Americans exist and you don't like them, or you put "interesting" people-groups on some kind of pedestal like more than being people they resemble some kind of reality TV show that you can attach fake rules and interpretations to. one is where you don't even know they exist and act like they're totally made up. this distinction seems to exist for all demographic identities.
3056. 3056

      Real life doesn't contain battles

      / (9k)

Edge cases

3066. 3066

      Race coding is culturally fabricated

      (furry fandom) / Furries don't have to think about race / Furries never have to think about race (furry-fans; furry fandom) / When you read furry media, or create it, there's no need to think about race -> I think this is really stupid precisely because, if we take kid-friendly shows for an example, Kimba can be a story all about an abstract civilization and then blatantly have blackface in the manga and one people group in Africa oppressing other people groups played as a joke. this proposition is using furry characters as an excuse to be "color-blind".
      

      white-bread fantasy + furry fandom = this.

Ideologies

• Fy / fiction
• Fy / fantasy genre
• Fy / fan fiction tropes
• PT / microaggressions
• PT / The Manosphere