User:RD/9k/Offensive jokes are democracy (Q64,76)
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- Offensive jokes are democracy / Making offensive jokes is democracy / Making offensive jokes is a core and basic form of freedom situated within the level of social reality that everything called democracy stands on and springs out of; this is to imply that freedom is more important than democracy and democracy is actually made of freedom rather than the other way around
- Nothing is more democratic than to have the high and mighty lampooned and spoofed (Hustler v. Falwell) ; Hustler Magazine and Larry C. Flynt, Petitioners v. Jerry Falwell [1] [2] -> it feels strange there is so much talk about the role of humor recently. I feel like it's one of many faces of Edgeworth's dialectic.
Humor is government by the people
- Humor is a form of government / (9k) -> I hate this proposition because I know it's not true but I have a very hard time disproving it because I don't even know what's the best concrete place to start.
- Humor is a form of government -> my first thoughts here... humor can be used by literally anyone with any point of view, and it can be used to discourage things that are normal or harmless if enough people subjectively decide they're awkward. trans women have been the subject of terrible jokes for decades and decades, all intended to make them go away. "global warming" has also been a very frequent subject of jokes. and people who are told that hateful jokes aren't funny generally don't change their minds ...
humor is about as democratic as impeaching Donald Trump, because it has done about as much to get him out of office. - If humor is a form of government, then it can outlaw protests / If humor is a form of government, then protesting can be outlawed and suppressed simply by calling frivolous protests "actually stupid" / (9k)
- Humor is a form of government -> to claim that humor is "democratic" seems to be using a definition where "democracy" has nothing to do with giving the people any power to govern each other (so, democracy is not government of the people by the people and for the people), and in fact is almost synonymous with freedom; as people have more and more freedom there is democracy, but when people are actually given the power to govern the people that has nothing to do with democracy.
Offensive jokes are Leninism
- Trump is Žižek / Trump making crude jokes does not prove Slavoj Žižek is Donald Trump, but arguably does prove that Trump is Žižek, or, to put it more literally, that the Republican party is a countable instance of blue or brown anarchism whether charcoal anarchists want to believe that is actually considered anarchism or not / Trump making crude jokes does not prove Žižek is a Tory, but does imply that Žižek's premises are incorrect and he is not modeling what he thinks he is; Žižek claimed he was a "Communist" but if Trump does what Žižek says and is against Communism it means that what Žižek believes is not Marxism or Leninism; this is to imply that what Žižek believes is blue anarchism / (9k)
Humor is a form of government + Donald Trump and crude jokes = Trump is Žižek.
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