9k:RD/ Umineko; When They Cry (Q618)
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Content warnings
- Umineko spoilers
- Umineko is a relatively linear story that is best experienced without spoilers (or very minimal spoilers). There may be partial spoilers up to about Episode 3 on this page.
- I have put all spoilers from after the beginning of Day 2 in spoiler tags. If you mention any of these propositions in edit summaries, please use the redacted titles.
Main entry
- Umineko / 『うみねこのなく頃に』 -> a highly unusual case of a work of fiction being violet not just due to its approach but due to its specific subject matter. I won't spoil the exact plot of the story itself on this page but see below. if you've already read the work your mind will be blown.
Unpacking the allegory
- Umineko and Animal Farm are telling the same story / Umineko and [potential spoiler] are telling the same story (redacted title) -> you think I'm joking. but this is not a joke.
- Kinzo represents global capitalism / [potential spoiler] represents global capitalism (Umineko) (redacted title) -> hmm. I think the best thing to do with these propositions is to create an abbreviated form of the proposition that is amusingly cryptic, then explain the whole thing on a proposition page just for the individual proposition.
is the Moscow Trials / [potential spoilers] is the Moscow Trials (Umineko) (redacted title)
Related
- To succeed at Gramscianism you have to be a Trotskyist / To succeed at Gramscianism (Gramsci's Marxism; Gramsci's version of Bolshevism) it is necessary to hide Lattice points that are to be passed on by unaware people behind the borders of multiple countries, which in effect transforms Gramscianism into a form of Trotskyism / (9k) -> this proposition will seem like word salad unless you've read Umineko and then you'll understand it instantly. the way it hides this stuff almost specifically for people in multiple countries... you have to see it, but it almost explains this proposition better than a straight non-fiction explanation.
- Communist monomyth / greatest story ever told (sense) -> the motif of retelling "the story of Marxism" (as someone interprets it) like it was at least as important as the Bible.
Ideologies or fields
- / mystery narratives
- / aristocrat fiction
- / fiction about Japanese history
- / fiction commenting on a historical period
- / allegorical fiction
- / historical materialism in fiction
- / meta-Marxism in fiction
Subpages
- commentary - my immediate thoughts while reading the work. spoilers on specific story details.