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  1. dialectical materialism / diamat -> at first I had this in the pronounced Stem color. not really sure what I was thinking.
  2. dialectical materialism
  3. dialectical materialism

    -> I have seen some rather convincing accusations that Stalin didn't even understand dialectical materialism at the moments it mattered most. that is quite a thought. if true, the crimson swatch would flat out refer to fake Marxisms that haven't even fully become Marxism. I was never bold enough to make that leap up to now. but if dialectical materialism is violet and it's the first step to a molecular Marxism and when you go all the way through you basically get Trotskyism... it doesn't look good for Stalin. it makes a lot more sense why Stalinism keeps producing "infra-Marxisms" and I felt the need to come up with meta-Marxism to get outside them though. meta-Marxism is a silly proposition if you actually have a solid dialectical materialism, but meta-Stalinism was absolutely necessary, in turn making meta-Marxism "necessary".
  4. dialectical materialism -> I think there's an argument this is violet. if you try to describe dialectical materialism a lot of the themes I tend to describe when I try to explain "meta-Marxism"/"existential materialism" are in it already. specifically: the concept that knowledge is tested through practice and that this would apply to two different "Marxisms" (apparently-Marxist parties) colliding with each other and having to understand each other as objects in order to decide which one is closer to Marxism and which one is closer to revisionism. I defined the concept of "Stalinists and Trotskyists run into each other, Trotskyists try their best to survive, Stalinist republic falls apart" as violet rather early on into putting together violet Marxism and kept it as violet the whole time, but it seems that if you really boil it down to its component processes this is dialectical materialism. the notion of "molecularization" where Marxist parties increasingly learn about themselves by interacting with the world and the notion of dialectical materialism overlap and to some extent are the same, though I'm not sure they're exactly the same.

Relevant texts

  1. Anarchism or Socialism (Stalin 1906) [1] / (9k) -> 'to explain Marxism, I have to recap dialectical materialism...'

Dialectical materialism identifies Marxisms

  1. Marxism as a mere set of claims without its method of dialectical materialism is not Marxism -> sounds about right. ... Marxism has to produce actual change to be meaningful, or to put it another way it should produce a living, effective party when that is historically appropriate. and to do that the party needs dialectical materialism. for no particular reason I haven't been using language that way but I would have agreed for quite a while already that this statement is more correct than the language I tend to use.
  2. Dialectical materialism cannot produce a single, final set of invariant conclusions to memorize; this is not to imply that the visible universe as a whole has parts that can never be understood, but it is to imply that as all material objects interact and change, new additional or updated facts are always being added
  3. Bordigism is not a form of Marxism / Without dialectical materialism, Bordigism is not Marxism
  4. Without dialectical materialism, Stalinism is not Marxism, even if it had hypothetically been the case that Stalin's party produced theoretical content derived from Marxism

Ideologies or fields

  1. pronounced early Marxism / dialectical materialism
  2. pronounced M-L / Stalin