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CPC fearmongering
/ China fearmongering -> I need a page to put all these dumb claims about China on. this will do- CPC fearmongering / oppressive Chinese regime (generic) / China's authoritarian government (generic) / Communist China (said in derogatory tone; generic)
- CPC fearmongering -> most of the time this is blue or brown but occasionally it's orange.
Claimed Chinese genocides
- The CPC is conducting three genocides / The Chinese Communist Party is currently conducting three genocides — against the Uyghur Muslims, Falun Gong practitioners, and Tibetan Buddhists — through mass detention, torture, cultural eradication, and forced organ harvesting (Epoch Times) [1] -> I cannot believe I'm at a point where I don't even take anticommunist accusations the least bit seriously and when I read this statement too fast I said in irony "but what about the Uyghurs, you can't forget them ;)". nah they got that one in there. the thing that gets me though is how they seemed to be carefully holding back the urge to call persecuting Christians the 'fourth' genocide and just say there were four
- The CPC is persecuting Christians / The regime is escalating its war on Christianity, arresting pastors, and crushing underground churches (Brownback) [2]
- The CPC is conducting three genocides -> note: I don't take this so flippantly that I truly feel that there is 0% possibility of genocides or persecutions happening in China. that is why I titled this "claimed" genocides and didn't go for a word like "supposed" or "purported". that said every actual specific claim I've seen made a really bad argument for what it was arguing. I wish the arguments would be more believable, that's all.
Supply chains
- self-contained supply chains in China -> these are pretty remarkable, and yet it seems the new strategy is to try to tear this apart claiming it to be an evil plan.
- China put pharmaceutical starting ingredients and assembly next to each other in order to torment the United States by withholding pharmaceutical exports [3] -> I can't take this claim seriously in a world where people still think it's okay to withhold stuff from Cuba. like, no, this is the way the unending cold war is fought now — countries have to threaten each other in order to not be dominated, they have to have a missile or a missing shipment of goods in their back pocket, and that's now part of the definition of what a sovereign government is. it has become that the ability to sabotage someone else's society when you don't like it is what is "democratic".
- the lack of U.S. government oversight of Chinese pharmaceutical manufacturers is staggering [4] -> listen to yourself as you say that! that statement reveals a lot about what the United States thinks governments are and who is supposed to rule who.
the second thing that gets me about this: they're getting upset about the use of low-quality cheap ingredients. after the US outsourced most of its manufacturing to a poorer Third-World country. that it threatened for not letting the US conquer its workers and required to take the supply chains. I swear a big part of the United States' political philosophy amounts to "punish countries for being poor until they become rich but somehow still obey our orders". like at the end of the day a capitalist is just a bossy little dictator that comes and beats you for not building businesses and becoming rich. the part where capitalists actually try to own the capital people make has become somewhat immaterial to them, now they just do violence to nationalities because they like to see lots of goods flow across markets I guess. a big part of it seems to be molding national cultures in order to have more allies in wars while leaving a few countries that are the most resistant in medieval conditions so they can be punished the hardest by all the blue countries.
'This is a big deal'
- we've been treating them like a normal country / This is an evil regime. They've killed more of their own people than any other regime in the history of mankind, and we’ve been treating them like a normal country (Brownback) [5] -> this is one of the most sinister ways to refer to a country in terms of how deep an ulterior motive it implies in the people talking about it
- United States leaders have tiptoed around human rights and religious freedoms in China -> I really don't think they have. I think all three of these have been relatively consistent talking points across the United States for anyone who speaks against China [6]
- Human rights and religious freedom are the CPC's deepest vulnerability [7] -> I don't think that's true either. 1) have you forgotten about the tanks? if they truly were a "repressive regime" then you're not going to get very far with mere morality appeals. 2) I would guess their deepest vulnerability is when people claim they aren't following Maoism, because they have basically no good argument against that, like, you could unite all the world's Communists around just the statement that the CPC isn't following Maoism if not around anything else.
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