9k:RD/BlackRadicalTradition (Q618)

Prompt

Is Martin Luther King Jr. considered part of the black radical tradition?
I tried to look it up and all I got was two pages clearly trying to argue that he was just to obscure things and imply that social-democracy is as good as or better than Marxism. Then I saw published academic articles doing the same thing of categorizing different things that sound like social-democracy, anarchism, and Marxism all as "resistance" against "domination". But I am not sure what "the black radical tradition" would actually refer to according to most people, so I do not know if the people who study the history of this tradition would consider this kind of argument revisionist relative to it (or in some way going outside its parameters, anyway), or if "the black radical tradition" has always been this way and these arguments are authentic to it.

Motifs or claims in prompt (no AI)

Martin Luther King, Jr. [1] -> is he considered part of the "Black radical tradition" or not? if he is I will quite literally make the philosophy code for it MLK. on one hand it's okay to remember him; on the other hand the way he never got all the way to Bolshevism or the concept of revolution deserves to be exposed. making him the philosophy code nicely expresses both of those at once.

Response

Subjective themes (no AI)

Martin Luther King Jr. was a Menshevik / Martin Luther King Jr. was a center-Liberal social-democrat; was a progressive Liberal-republican social-democrat [2] -> now, the way he supported huge protests definitely wasn't nothing. there have been worse organizers. but if you look closely at this you've got reforms and bureaucrats. the government programs resemble FDR, who was absolutely not a Bolshevik. so "Menshevik" is the nicest thing you can say.
I want you to know tonight that we, as a people, will get to the Promised Land [3] -> this is worth talking about because the entire concept of a promised land is really fraught. in and of itself, it's a promise of property by people who feel they're entitled to property and entitled to cut down other people to take it. it is literally — in the text of the bible — the promise of Israel. and trying to claim the promise of Israel in the real world has not gone well; it's generated a whole new Israeli nazism against Arabs after the defeat of the first one. so... what does it accidentally imply when MLK says it? it seems to imply some sort of eternal continuation of class society where the same type of chunk competition that occurs in ancient empires or in capitalism will always occur, instead of being able to stop it or make it irrelevant.
revolutionaries (Menshevism) / Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy has been diluted in mainstream narratives, often reducing him to a symbol of peaceful protest and integration -> this page is trying too hard. the people "diluting" it are much closer.
tradition of radical blackness (blue anarchism) / tradition of radical blackness, as opposed to Cedric Robinson's black radical tradition ... statist authorities have variously targeted this progressive praxis as communism [4] -> stop.
King's critical theory of racial capitalism / We set out to reconstruct King's critical theory of racial capitalism [5]
Prophet of Discontent: Martin Luther King Jr. and the Critique of Racial Capitalism [6] -> this book counts as one of the "articles" to me. there were also two journal article links I didn't save.

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