From Philosophical Research
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- Turning Red's universe experienced 9/11 / The Turning Red universe experienced 9/11 -> this is so funny because like, it's technically true, but not exactly. would 9/11 affect the overall country even in the universe of the movie? yes. would it necessarily affect the city or town the movie takes place in? no. that's just it. this statement is "has some occurence" but it's not flat-out "true". this goes in the "Causality in fiction" ontology along with "Steven Universe revived Pinkie Pie"
- Turning Red's narrative should mention 9/11 / Turning Red's narrative would be affected by 9/11 -> this is the version MrEnter actually said.
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- How would Growing Around be affected by 9/11? -> this seems like a silly question, or even a terrible one, but if you really think about it on a more ironic level, it's a great question. say we zoom out and look at the whole Iraq war. did the Iraq war of 2003 happen in the Growing Around universe? is there such a thing as First World and Third World countries? can a country contain conflicting factions of Muslims who may or may not want to build a global empire? how does this series conceptualize history? if the kids fixed all of this how did they do it? you end up having to answer some deep questions about what historical processes even exist and how historical processes even function.
god though, imagine it. Iraq is divided. but it's a bunch of kids having a really dumb cafeteria argument where half of Iraq is jocks and half of it is nerds or some dumb shit like that. they're having a Pokémon-Digimon fight. the adults are getting tired of this. we can draw some adults in hijab, the smaller coverings, but the society is really different because kids didn't invent Islam and they all believe in a plurality of magical superstitions like the book had shown us with fairies and Santa Claus, so these aren't the same kinds of patriarchal societies. the kids hatch some wild scheme to make Syria part of Iraq if one country loses a big sports match. some delegate from the United States tries to tell them that's a very immature thing to do and they can't just do whatever they want because they're kids, and they throw tomato juice all over her. this leads to the occupation of Iraq, where the United States is constantly trying to get Iraq to stop fighting, but not based on any adult criterion of what would make objective sense, only on what U.S. kids culturally like better — "everyone in Americandy uses Ginomon cards! why is this so hard". we have the historical events a little out of order to make it easier to follow.
