From Philosophical Research
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- Linear time prevents individuals from realizing fictions / Linear time prevents individuals from controlling the process of realizing fictions / Linear time takes power away from cybernetic assemblages or Group-Subject-organisms and keeps them from determning their own destiny -> no. honestly, if you steered this away from mysticism, it really could sound less silly than it does, but I still don't think it's true. like, say you try to de-mystify this using relativity. Isaac Newton didn't know there wasn't one big linear flow of spacetime, so he cursed science with "linear time". then Albert Einstein showed up and laid out a model where if anything has an approximately linear flow of time then there are billions of them going in parallel and none of them is "the real one". so, we start with relativity. for any particular Group Subject with so-called "cybernetic flows" inside, let's say it's a Trotskyist party to be funny, that Group Subject retermines stuff about itself using its internal elements and the things immediately surrounding it. if there is a big bad Communist Party of the Soviet Union in the way, the Trotskyist party will do what it can to plan around its environment and realize Trotskyism, its preferred so-called "fiction". this happens on a timetable specific to and emerging from the Trotskyist party, while the CPSU may have a different timeline of how it wants to realize its own plans. there is nothing particularly cosmic about this in a magic-ritual or sci-fi time travel sense. the CPSU doesn't actually distort spacetime and take causality away from the Trotskyist party. both of them still have a timeline on which they can act to the degree they are capable. but, even so, when the two groups interact with their surrounding reality and each other, some possibilities collapse into more disappointing ones as a product of all the directions of interaction. whatever "fiction" (sociophilosophy or ontology) you come up with, it will always be affected by the presence of other "fictions" busy realizing themselves in relativistic time. all the fictions are realizing at once, some of them succeeding and some of them not succeeding, and the ones that don't successfully realize only keep getting screwed over by the successful ones in a vicious cycle. so the deal with Newtonian linear time is that it's an effect of sociophilosophies defeating each other, not a cause. linear time is only an outward perception of the result of what happened, but because it's a result, you can't simply fight it to fix the inner causal process. man. if the chaos magicians had just stopped with the notion of realizing fictions and never ever said anything about time, I would have been more receptive to it.
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- Susie being herself can change the Prophecy (Deltarune) / (9k)
Ideologies or fields[edit]
- ES / cybernetics
- UTDR / Deltarune
