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If Tory parties are a foreign material corrupting the normal functioning of the nation and have nothing to do with the usual way any of it functions then why are they legal?
This is a political economy narrative so stupid I swear that only someone without any hope who wants to be dominated by an elite mastermind could regard any of it as plausible
If this video was true, then First World countries refusing immigrants from China, Cuba, Vietnam, and North Korea could save the world.

People flee Deng Xiaoping states on the pretext of "freedom". Freedom generally means the ability to move out of one position into another position. But the actual reasons that Deng Xiaoping states limit people's freedom are very similar to the ideas in this video: to keep things in order and let the economy grow only for useful reasons so that it doesn't grow in an uncontrolled way and lead to imperialism. So it's very likely that if this 'co-op system' were built a bunch of people would think it was tyrannical and try to flee it, purely because creating a stable system creates a system with less movement and fewer possibilities and it would be _perceived_ as a system where people are assigned a very specific role and have no freedom. And then those escaped people would turn around and try to team up with other outside populations of people to smash the entire system just to never have to experience un-freedom.

So here's the funny thing. You'd get the same effect as what this video wants much more easily by just not letting people flee China or Cuba and go to the United States, by saying, "no, you have to stay in a Deng Xiaoping state and fix it, you don't get to go to the First World". Because if you leave your home country you create a new group of people which is growing uncontrollably rather than contributing to creating stable groups of people where you were, and that new group created on the basis of Freedom is eventually going to become Greedy and start pocketing money for itself rather than giving it to you. So you can move from China to Vietnam or from Vietnam to Cuba, but the smart thing for you to do is to stay in China, Cuba, or Vietnam and never come to Europe or the United States. You have to stay where you are and not protest about the brokenness of your country and the superiority of other countries or else you'll have contributed to Greed and imperialism and destroyed Western civilization by turning it Evil with your counterrevolutionary escape from your country's anti-Greed program.

Regular old Mike-Pence, anti-immigrant reactionaries are capable of enforcing this system as much as U.S. Communists would be, if not better at it. So.... how does a system that specifically focuses on "Greed" and hierarchy and control and disrupting domination _clear_ a country of reactionaries, when in fact, reactionaries would be the very best at enforcing the first steps of it?