9k:RD/ Can Stalin and Trotsky coexist? (Q29,40)
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- How can Stalin and Trotsky coexist in the same reality? -> whenever I run into a question about the United States that's really difficult I come back to this and I ask myself if there's any way to draw lessons out of a Stalin and Trotsky scenario. Black Lives Matter not cooperating with Trotskyists? turn it around a little bit so the Trotskyists are Stalin and BLM is Trotsky — suddenly everything makes more sense.
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- If ideologies can coexist, they should be mutually consistent / If ideologies can exist in harmony, they should be ontologically consistent across each other / Compromise is nothing, ontological consistency is key -> one of the biggest, most central claims of meta-Marxism. this is the claim that if Trotskyists and Stalin followers can exist in the same world, then we should expect mainstream Marxism-Leninism to correctly model the historical emergence of Trotskyism and its persistence after being exposed while Trotskyism correctly models the emergence and persistence of socialisms-in-one-country; this is the claim that if US "Democrats" and "Republicans" (center-Liberals and Tories) can coexist, they should each have completely accurate models of how the other behaves which they can use to predict how to peacefully resolve their differences. obviously this sounds rather laughable for Liberal-republicanism. but for Marxism, the notion that mainstream Marxism-Leninism and Trotskyism could update themselves to correctly model each other and all other ideology-populations as potentially independent entities wouldn't sound anywhere near as far-fetched. it's actually quite baffling why after generating so much new history without prior precedents Trotskyism would never have switched to correctly explaining its own material real-world history as an emerging "nation" or constellation of workers' states and realizing that there are steps in between what has actually happened and the purported end state for Trotskyism of a global civilization that they take out of Lenin's 1920 writings.
Ideologies or fields
- / meta-Marxism
- / Stalinism as meta-Marxism
- / Trotskyism
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