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Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q5400/dugin

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"Can we do Materialism in a world where we have to go through Ideas?"
Yes, I think so.

I have a certain beef with Lacanianism because of the way it tries to overlay these weird abstract schemas on top of reality that almost seem divorced from material reality. I have been reading through one of the Lacanian books I thought was the most coherent and promising (The Excessive Subject) and... it still really just feels like spaghetti that focuses on arbitrary concepts that don't seem to actually explain or model much.
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Thinking for example of how Dugin removed the suspicious words within his talk to appear less biased while he still had those biases... [1] The problem I see with the ideas in this stream is that I'm not sure it's actually possible to make philosophy that's non-ideological when it's always made by human beings with motivations and biases. Even if you remove them and try to be nonpartisan, it seems to me like every philosophy just turns into an ideology simply because it has assumptions in it that you have to accept, often at the exclusion of other things, to believe it?

And this is what leads to Lacanianism ending up as a bunch of — in my opinion — meaningless spaghetti that thinks it's become more objective but is just biased against other things in an inoffensive direction of being obsessed with arbitrary concepts like The Symbolic and The Imaginary. (I know that's not the best example of "words that create concept salad", but I don't want to go hunting for a good one right now.)

I don't say this intending to be mean. But I just, have always felt like whenever Žižek went on about ideologies he was then getting lost in his own ideology not understanding that it was still ideology and bias just like all the other things he was criticizing? Maybe you can improve Lacanianism in a way I did not foresee, but maybe you can think about this

[This comment was originally heavily censored to avoid YouTube filters (which might have been channel filters) but when I archived it I edited back the edits into what they were meant to say.]

Honestly, I think nothing better demonstrates that we mainly just face our material lives being dominated by capitalism intruding into every material activity than me trying to post a thoughtful comment that's not against any rules and having to fight with the platform this much to get it through. This is why I'm an ML. Trying to improve your philosophy and work out all the problems with it is nice and all, but we need to end capitalism Materially with Material strategies simply because if we do not I can't even post a damn comment.