User:RD/9k/YouTube creating Communists (Q28,11)
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- YouTube is turning people into Communists (creating Communists, creating Marxists; abbreviated proposition) / The class structure or inner graph-economics structure of YouTube is conducive to demonstrating why capitalism does not make sense and Bolshevism tends to follow as the next step after capitalism -> sub-case of: Q28,17 Patreon types must learn that only businesses can pay businesses
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- Mastodon is turning people into Communists (creating Communists, creating Marxists; abbreviated proposition) / Mastodon is teaching people to use social platforms for their own sake instead of for profit by the platform owner or the individual users, functioning as a sort of "state business" attached to a countable culture, and as such, is creating an environment which is conducive to the emergence of Communist allies -> the claim that when microblog newsfeeds are created in a localized way for the people that use them rather than for one giant "mall lord", they turn into a structure where people casually share many things free as opposed to paywalled and unobtainable and the people of each particular localized social platform all operate as non-payers within a larger local government attached to a hunk of capital that acts as the only payer and that none of them directly owns; the localized social platform turns into a kind of generalized "state business", which is incidentally attached to a local countable culture in the form of the instance membership. this is definitely some kind of Bauplan. this is a mathematical structure which could be fit into theories of socialist transition. the only major issue is figuring out what "color" this Bauplan is. I would hazard a guess that it is actually charcoal, thinking about the way that people all over are so obsessed with creating these modular "state businesses" independently of existing corporate owners but independently of republican governments. that reads as very anarchist, in the sense of anarchism being connected to motifs of countable cultures extracting themselves from multiple possible "colonizing" forces, and these weird concepts that countable cultures inherently want to stand together just because they're all cultures.
- Mastodon is turning people into anarchists / Mastodon is turning individual people into anarchists -> the inner substance of these two claims is different. they could both be true, unless there is some greater emergent process which is actually moving even the "central" people in a given population to create not a Marxist party-nation but an identifiable large charcoal-colored societal structure.
I wouldn't rule out the possibility of kingdom-sized charcoal Bauplans actually emerging within the next century. the one caveat is... anarchism is infuriating in how it always acts only at the tiniest scales and effectively as the world has shifted into post-structuralist anarchisms you never actually know whether an anarchist transition process is happening or not. I think post-structuralist anarchisms are just confused theories created by cowards who want to spin utter failure as revolutionary adaptation, but at the same time, I think the same people that practice them may be capable of creating society-wide anarchist transition mostly by luck as the unintentional actions of millions or billions of people all just happen to stack up to an emergent process of change. you'd really need meta-Marxism to be able to notice and describe that transition though. most people who go fumbling through life not thinking about bigger patterns make really stupid decisions. these days it's dreadfully common for people to all separately align onto a model of "replacing big corporate structures with networks of indies" when the result would not be any different; people's lives would be ruled by algorithms similar to YouTube and Amazon where individuals keep trying to grab each other's attention, and everyone would face huge pressures to greatly specialize at something while not having any guarantee they wouldn't suddenly be thrown out of society and told to start training at something else all over again, everyone still treating people as disposable novelties.
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