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  1. categorical imperative (statement about ethics versus goals) / Treat people as ends / Act to treat people as ends in themselves, and not as means / Act to treat other people as a parallel to yourself, with their own inner lives, needs, and goals -> isn't this basically the same thing as the golden rule? ...oh wow the summary video said it. hmm, the other golden rule Items don't specifically invoke ends or means, this idea of specifically trying to achieve a goal and Kant telling you to not do it the worst ways. maybe this is a separate proposition.
    categorical imperative + ?? = The Subject

Golden rule and siblings

  1. Treat others as you would treat yourself / Do unto others as you would have them do unto you / Love thy neighbor as thyself (statement that may explicitly only extend to people in the same population; Christian Old Testament) [1] / golden rule / We should conduct ourselves toward others as we would have them act toward us (Aristotle) [2]
  2. Do not treat others as you would not treat yourself / Do not do unto others as they should not do unto you / silver rule (golden inverse) / inverse golden rule / golden rule (negative) [3] [4] / We shouldn't do to anyone what we wouldn't want done to us (professional skaters' association) [5] / the whole Torah (description of Torah as summarized by inverse golden rule) [6]
  3. Treat yourself as you would treat others / Do unto you as you do unto others / bronze rule (golden converse) [7] / converse golden rule
  4. Treat others how they would like to be treated [8] / platinum rule
    cultural relativism proposition + ?? = platinum rule. platinum rule + ?? = cultural relativism proposition.
  5. Do as thou wilt, provided that no one else is harmed / bronze rule (generic) [9]
  6. material golden rule, relativistic golden rule, formal golden rule [10]

Base-metal rules

  1. Do unto others as they do unto you [11] / Do unto others as they would do unto you / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you / Do unto others as they have done to others [12] / Do unto others as others have done unto you [13] / lead rule [14] / brass rule (generic) [15]
  2. Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you [16] / iron rule [17] / iron rule of sales / plutonium rule (statement that salespeople should make the first move to have control over the situation) [18]
  3. Do what others would "unto" / Act as others would / Do unto others as they would do in your place / leathern rule [19] -> this one is.... interesting. it's a good rule when you actually know what others want, but a bad rule when you don't. like, you do this right, you avoid creating a Trotskyite conspiracy, you do it wrong, you turn into Hillary Clinton. sometimes this is the same as the lead rule, sometimes it's the same as the platinum rule.
  4. Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you may one day be them / plutonium rule [20] / veil of ignorance (John Rawls) [21] -> I never thought of the veil of ignorance as a counterpart to the golden rule but I don't know why not because they are conceptually similar.
  5. Whatever destructive or unexpected thing is done by one free-floating individual person or individual group now will be done by other individual entities before long -> this is the part of the golden rule that I wholeheartedly agree with, even if I think there are some fundamental problems with the concept of Liberal-republican ethics. I'll have to find a name for this "rule".... the cobalt rule. cobalt ore is a faint blue-violet depending on the angle. but some cobalt minerals are bright saturated blue. it equally symbolizes exmat and Rothenberg's weird Lacanian model of unpredictable individuals. but my main reasoning is it is one possible element to use in spacecraft, which could see the earth from a far distance. it's used in engines apparently. [22]

Related

  1. Kantianism / (9k)
  2. The platinum rule alone is universal / If there's anything inherently human, it's the act of respecting countable cultures as separately-operating entities and performing to other countable cultures as different from you -> the thing about this is that if it's true, Deleuze's model of groups being inseparable multiplicities is not only wrong but bigoted. a model that can't respect China as China or early Trotskyism as early Trotskyism and begin with the concept that separable groups exist and have culture and standards is broken.
  3. Every need for freedom emerges from physical separation or differences -> could be wrong but we have to start somewhere.
    Every need for freedom emerges from physical separation or differences + ?? = The platinum rule alone is universal.
  4. God reincarnating as every consciousness in existence [23] -> that idea is such a trip
  5. If you forget to give the stranger your coat he was Jesus (Matthew 25:42-46) [24] -> I find very little of the bible actually useful but for some reason this is one of the things in it that has just stuck in my mind over the years. the weird concept that you must give God your coat and he is everybody. it's one of the weirdest ways to phrase the veil of ignorance and yet somehow it came first.

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