I've got a dumb challenge for you that might be fun. prove that Juche-socialism and Gramscianism aren't just ultimately the same thing. (or are.) you can use any sources you want as long as they are accurate to reality and so forth.
Juche-socialism is defined here as the methods used to create North Korea, and any of its writings that _contain_ material descriptions of socialist transition. Gramscianism is defined as any or all of the practical methods advocated by Antonio Gramsci before he was imprisoned, plus only the parts of the prison notebooks that are consistent with the 'before' period — basically any time Gramsci gives a fully Materialist description of a Marxist-Leninist movement, but usually not the parts where he tries to claim that 'consciousness' or 'culture' or 'mentality' are something special and separate from a class movement or organizing people. (don't think too hard about that distinction; it's a rule of thumb to help find the best works of Gramsci, but if you call just anything Gramsci wrote "Gramscianism" then that's more correct than incorrect.)
claims:
A) Gramscianism is about chunks of workers taking up and holding down space before fascist movements can get it.
B) Gramscianism will only succeed if every chunk of workers forms together into a unified national population and stays together — as any Marxist movement would have to either way.
C) Gramscianism is not technically based in class, but specifically in occupying space.
D) Gramscianism is technically a center-wing nationalist movement more than it is a proletarian movement.
E) Juche-socialism is a center-wing nationalist movement.
F) When people formed together across the region of North Korea specifically to keep out external empires and be North Korea, they formed a workers' state with a central Marxist party; a center-wing nationalist movement not focused on internal class conflicts _can_ form a Marxist state.
G) North Korea states that its workers' state is or was composed of workers, peasants, and intellectuals.
H) North Korea basically formed through processes of chunks of workers and intellectuals joining together in order to occupy a national area and expel the Japanese empire.
I) conclusion: North Korea is the same thing as Gramscianism or is difficult to distinguish from Gramscianism.
I have never heard anybody argue this before but I cannot figure out why it might be incorrect.
