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User:RD/9k/president of gay people (Q34,60)

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  1. president of all gay people / Gay President (hypothetical president of all gay or lesbian people inside a particular country)

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  1. Why aren't LGBT+ people a democracy? / Why aren't LGBT+ people a democratic republic? / Why isn't there a Gay President who is president of all gay people? / Why isn't there a Trans President who is president of all trans people? -> putting a little pressure on Liberal-republicanism. this idea that populations of people don't in fact have a Base just by virtue of being populations, and identities somehow exist on their own layer of reality as a smallest-scale component of towns is silly. if you can really just be gay or trans without having a class position in society, then like, why isn't there specifically a gay Congress or a gay president right now? why aren't LGBT+ people a free-standing country with their own democratic institutions specific to them? why do they have to be a subpopulation in another country and use that other country's system of representation? follow along with me. in Liberal-republicanism and a lot of Existentialism people just kind of assume that "democracy" can be a basic part of society that exists before all else, before nation-states, before businesses, before anything, just, human individuals and consciousnesses exist and then suddenly democracy exists. but in practice, every single democracy consists of material pieces like national borders and constitutionally-defined republican institutions with actual buildings they meet in. so if democracy really came first before anything else, then it would be reasonable to expect gay people would have their own gay president and gay elections and everybody would have a gay passport and who knows, there might even be a gay national healthcare system. but that's not really how it works in practice. on the other hand, if the order of events was that human beings exist and then modes of production exist, where people need particular things and they are added to social structures to fulfil those needs that are physical or otherwise basic, and that is the way people join society, then the observed pattern of gay people being workers or owners like everyone else and merely being added into a larger subpopulation instead of having their own nation-state is about what you'd expect to happen. where is the Black president unique to all Black people that isn't president of the United States? it's almost like over 100 years ago Black people were forcibly added to the United States inside a mode of production.
  2. Being gay is the most inherently democratic thing there is because if there was a Gay President of all gay people then it would be nearly impossible for that person to be succeeded in their position by their biological children Bill Clinton or Kim Il-Sung style; the natural progression of events is for the Gay President to hand over the position to a completely different person

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  • LGBT / LGBT+ tradition
  • LR / Liberal-republicanism
  • MX / meta-Marxism
  • MX onto LR