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== Characteristics in draft ==
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== Exact claim ==


=== Properties ===
Every social phenomenon at a scale larger than the individual is subordinate to the moral rights of the individual, and all Third World countries consist of individuals [[E:tent of freedom poles|comparable to]] First World individuals, therefore if any Third World country is operating in a way that appears to not make its individuals free, it is justified to dissolve the whole country and all its structure if necessary — government, constitution, nationality, and all — so that all its individuals will form into something else; when a First World country is not acting to occupy or attack a Third World population to dissolve it out of the belief it is committing Unfreedom, this must be a state of friendship, freedom, and normal healthy social behavior within a global society in which the Third World country has agreed to join a social contract through [[E:reason (Kant)|falling back to reason]], and is not a state of coercion or [[E:colonialism (physical exploitation)|global empire]]
 
== Core characteristics ==


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{{HueRoster|P=label (en)| {{Ontology:Q5991}} }}
{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA/L|lang=en| {{E:Q5991}} | [[E:Nice walnuts don't get cracked]] }}
{{HueClaim|P=alias (en)| Freedom is when you have to obey certain rules or not even exist }}
{{HueClaim |EP=PPPA|lang=en| Nice walnuts not getting imminently broken is paradise | Nice walnuts don't get cracked open (simultaneous threat and reassurance) | Freedom is when you have to obey certain rules or not even exist | You must be free or we'll shoot you (Alan Watts) | Countries are like walnuts: they only taste good when you crack them open | Countries Are Like Walnuts (anti-slogan) | walnut proposition (anticommunist conception of countries) }}
{{HueClaim|P=alias (en)| Nice walnuts don't get cracked open (threat, reassurance) | Countries are like walnuts: they only taste good when you crack them open | Countries Are Like Walnuts (anti-slogan) }}
{{HueRoster|EP=P42| {{E:Q3091/SN}} }}  <!-- en: QID references -->
{{HueRoster|P={{Ontology:P42}}| Bolshevism is over }}  <!-- en: QID references -->
{{HueRoster|EP=P56| {{E:Q3091}} | {{E:Q618/ES|primitive Existentialism}} | {{E:Q618/ES|globalization}} }}  <!-- en: color swatch references -->
{{HueRoster|P={{Ontology:P56}}| Bolshevism is over | primitive Existentialism | globalization }}  <!-- en: color swatch references -->
{{HueRoster|EP=P4| {{E:Q618/ES|proposition against Communism}} [[Category:Anticommunist propositions ontology]] }}  <!-- en: case of -->
{{HueRoster|P=subset of| -- }}  <!-- en: subset of -->
{{HueRoster|EP=P5| -- }}  <!-- en: super-case of -->
{{HueRoster|P=instance of| proposition against Communism }}  <!-- en: instance of -->
{{HueRoster|EP=P14| -- }}  <!-- en: appears in work -->
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{{HueRoster|P=relevant quote| -- }}
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{{HueRoster|P=[[User:Reversedragon/FirstNineThousand|prototype]] notes| came up in multiple MDem scraps. the concept is that within Existentialism, national autonomy is never truly taken seriously for any country. people assert platitudes about countries needing to be "free", but what really happens is the sheer population of living people constituting the country is not respected until it's cracked open by force and all the people are forcefully assimilated into one huge Napoleonism or global socially-linked friend circle of capitalists and Careerists. in asserting the right to use force to liberate the "isolated" people of a country from "the thumb" of their country, the State of the outside country extends over like a storm cloud and carries out the democratic decisions of somebody else completely unelected. imagine a world where people took child abuse as seriously as they take "authoritarian countries". 1000 people, probably with weapons, would flood the abusive household and throw out the parent. they wouldn't care if that was illegal by anybody's standards, they'd just do it. but also, if that sounds like a genuinely good idea to you, just keep in mind that you'd also get 1000 reactionaries tossing people's parents out of the state for letting them be transgender, or letting them go to a school that teaches inclusive history. at maximum democulture, all the children turn into walnuts that you have to crack open and carry over to the reactionary-school bowl. those hypothetical kids are not free. they're captured by the Social-Philosophical System that decided to define what Freedom is and leap its personal State over them. don't think too hard about what that analogy might be saying about literal Social-Philosophical Systems in daily life. the only thing I'll say there is, I'm really tired of hegemony politics and everything being run by Filaments. none of it makes any sense, and up to now nobody's said anything about it that's true. like, everything anybody tells you about Liberalism is some kind of small lie. what's up with that? }}
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=== Components ===
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== Prototype notes ==
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<li class="field_exstruct" data-qid="59,91" value="5991" data-dimension="S2">Nice walnuts not getting imminently broken is paradise / Countries are like walnuts: they only taste good when you crack them open  ->  came up in multiple {{book|MDem}} scraps. the concept is that within Existentialism, national autonomy is never truly taken seriously for any country. people assert platitudes about countries needing to be "free", but what really happens is the sheer population of living people constituting the country is not respected until it's cracked open by force and all the people are forcefully assimilated into one huge Napoleonism or global socially-linked friend circle of capitalists and Careerists. in asserting the right to use force to liberate the "isolated" people of a country from "the thumb" of their country, the State of the outside country extends over like a storm cloud and carries out the democratic decisions of somebody else completely unelected.<br />
imagine a world where people took child abuse as seriously as they take "authoritarian countries". 1000 people, probably with weapons, would flood the abusive household and throw out the parent. they wouldn't care if that was illegal by anybody's standards, they'd just do it. but also, if that sounds like a genuinely good idea to you, just keep in mind that you'd also get 1000 reactionaries tossing people's parents out of the state for letting them be transgender, or letting them go to a school that teaches inclusive history. at maximum [[Term:democulture|democulture]], all the children turn into walnuts that you have to crack open and carry over to the reactionary-school bowl. those hypothetical kids are not free. they're captured by the Social-Philosophical System that decided to define what Freedom is and leap its personal State over them. don't think too hard about what that analogy might be saying about literal Social-Philosophical Systems in daily life. the only thing I'll say there is, I'm really tired of hegemony politics and everything being run by Filaments. none of it makes any sense, and up to now nobody's said anything about it that's true. like, everything anybody tells you about Liberalism is some kind of small lie. what's up with that?
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Latest revision as of 14:14, 22 January 2026

  1. pronounced 59,91. (S2)pronounced (E.S.) (S2): Nice walnuts don't get cracked1-1-1

Exact claim[edit]

Every social phenomenon at a scale larger than the individual is subordinate to the moral rights of the individual, and all Third World countries consist of individuals comparable to First World individuals, therefore if any Third World country is operating in a way that appears to not make its individuals free, it is justified to dissolve the whole country and all its structure if necessary — government, constitution, nationality, and all — so that all its individuals will form into something else; when a First World country is not acting to occupy or attack a Third World population to dissolve it out of the belief it is committing Unfreedom, this must be a state of friendship, freedom, and normal healthy social behavior within a global society in which the Third World country has agreed to join a social contract through falling back to reason, and is not a state of coercion or global empire

Core characteristics[edit]

pronounced P: label (en) [string] (L)
pronounced 59,91. (S2)pronounced (E.S.) (S2): Nice walnuts don't get cracked1-1-1
E:Nice walnuts don't get cracked
pronounced P: alias (en) [string]
Nice walnuts not getting imminently broken is paradise
Nice walnuts don't get cracked open (simultaneous threat and reassurance)
Freedom is when you have to obey certain rules or not even exist
You must be free or we'll shoot you (Alan Watts)
Countries are like walnuts: they only taste good when you crack them open
Countries Are Like Walnuts (anti-slogan)
walnut proposition (anticommunist conception of countries)
pronounced Q.I.D. references [Item]1-1-1
pronounced 617. (S2)pronounced (S2): 91 as anticommunist number (Q30,91/SN)1-1-1
color swatch references [Item]
pronounced 617. (S2)pronounced (S2): Bolshevism is over1-1-1
primitive Existentialism (proposed; ES)1-1-1
globalization (proposed; ES)1-1-1
case of [Item]
proposition against Communism (proposed; ES)1-1-1
super-case of [Item]
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appears in work [Item]
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relevant quote
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Wavebuilder combinations[edit]

pronounced P: pronounced Wave-builder: forms result [Item]
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along with [Item]
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forming from [Item]
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Wavebuilder characterizations[edit]

pronounced Wave-builder: route [Item]
pronounced 59,91. (S2)pronounced (E.S.) (S2): Nice walnuts don't get cracked1-1-1
along with [Item]
pronounced 31,73. (S)pronounced (L.R.) (S):Black people are White people too (proposed; LR)1-1-1
forming from [Item]
pronounced 31,73. (S)pronounced (L.R.) (S):Black people are White people too (proposed; LR)1-1-1
pronounced 618. (S)pronounced (L.R.) (S):Cold War (proposed; LR)1-1-1
pronounced 59,91. (S2)pronounced (E.S.) (S2): Nice walnuts don't get cracked1-1-1

Prototype notes[edit]

  1. Nice walnuts not getting imminently broken is paradise / Countries are like walnuts: they only taste good when you crack them open -> came up in multiple MDem scraps. the concept is that within Existentialism, national autonomy is never truly taken seriously for any country. people assert platitudes about countries needing to be "free", but what really happens is the sheer population of living people constituting the country is not respected until it's cracked open by force and all the people are forcefully assimilated into one huge Napoleonism or global socially-linked friend circle of capitalists and Careerists. in asserting the right to use force to liberate the "isolated" people of a country from "the thumb" of their country, the State of the outside country extends over like a storm cloud and carries out the democratic decisions of somebody else completely unelected.
    imagine a world where people took child abuse as seriously as they take "authoritarian countries". 1000 people, probably with weapons, would flood the abusive household and throw out the parent. they wouldn't care if that was illegal by anybody's standards, they'd just do it. but also, if that sounds like a genuinely good idea to you, just keep in mind that you'd also get 1000 reactionaries tossing people's parents out of the state for letting them be transgender, or letting them go to a school that teaches inclusive history. at maximum democulture, all the children turn into walnuts that you have to crack open and carry over to the reactionary-school bowl. those hypothetical kids are not free. they're captured by the Social-Philosophical System that decided to define what Freedom is and leap its personal State over them. don't think too hard about what that analogy might be saying about literal Social-Philosophical Systems in daily life. the only thing I'll say there is, I'm really tired of hegemony politics and everything being run by Filaments. none of it makes any sense, and up to now nobody's said anything about it that's true. like, everything anybody tells you about Liberalism is some kind of small lie. what's up with that?