Ontology:Q4002

1. S2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (S2))[ML] [S2] (pronounced (ML) (S2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism is Leninism1:-1:-1

1. F2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (F2))[IV] [F2] (pronounced (Fourth) (F2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism isn't Leninism (IV)1:-1:-1

Core characteristics

Main sense

Stalin's Marxism is a valid Marxism, is a form of Leninism, and could hypothetically be the most correct form of Leninism

item type

S2 (C (pronounced Category))1:-1:-1

[P] (pronounced P:) label (en) [string] (L)

S2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (S2))[ML] [S2] (pronounced (ML) (S2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism is Leninism1:-1:-1

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field, scope, or group [Item]

Z–41,03 (pronounced 41,03. (Z))[ML] [Z] (pronounced (ML) (Z):) mainstream Marxism-Leninism (ML) (pronounced (ML))1:-1:-1

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Characteristics (sense IV (pronounced Fourth))

Only the corpus of theory that Lenin described circa 1906 is actually Leninism, but Stalin deviated from this earliest form of Leninism, therefore anything Stalin created is a revisionist Marxism and is not Leninism; because Stalin's Marxism is not Leninism the label "Marxism-Leninism" is incorrect

[P] (pronounced P:) label (en) [string] (L)

F2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (F2))[IV] [F2] (pronounced (Fourth) (F2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism isn't Leninism (IV)1:-1:-1

field, scope, or group [Item]

Z–41,04 (pronounced 41,04. (Z))[IV] [Z] (pronounced (Fourth) (Z):) (4104)Trotskyism (top-level category) (IV) (pronounced (Fourth))1:-1:-1

case of [Item]

foundational assumption in Trotskyism (📥 (pronounced proposed) / IV)1:-1:-1

S–618 (pronounced 618. (S))[W] [S] (pronounced (West) (S):) statement that a named Marxism is the only real Marxism (📥 (pronounced proposed) / W)1:-1:-1

statement that another ideology is heresy (📥 (pronounced proposed) / PT)1:-1:-1

Components

model combines claims

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S2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (S2))[ML] [S2] (pronounced (ML) (S2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism is Leninism1:-1:-1

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S2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (S2))[ML] [S2] (pronounced (ML) (S2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism is Leninism1:-1:-1

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along with [Item]

F2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (F2))[IV] [F2] (pronounced (Fourth) (F2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism isn't Leninism (IV)1:-1:-1

forming from [Item]

F2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (F2))[IV] [F2] (pronounced (Fourth) (F2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism isn't Leninism (IV)1:-1:-1

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Wavebuilder characterizations

[P] (pronounced P:) Wavebuilder (pronounced Wave-builder): forms result [Item]

S2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (S2))[ML] [S2] (pronounced (ML) (S2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism is Leninism1:-1:-1

along with [Item]

F2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (F2))[IV] [F2] (pronounced (Fourth) (F2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism isn't Leninism (IV)1:-1:-1

forming from [Item]

F2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (F2))[IV] [F2] (pronounced (Fourth) (F2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism isn't Leninism (IV)1:-1:-1

S–618 (pronounced 618. (S))[DX] [S] (pronounced (DX) (S):) Leninism is for defending Soviet borders (📥 (pronounced proposed) / DX)1:-1:-1

S2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (S2))[ML] [S2] (pronounced (ML) (S2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism is Leninism1:-1:-1

[P] (pronounced P:) Wavebuilder (pronounced Wave-builder): forms result [Item]

F2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (F2))[IV] [F2] (pronounced (Fourth) (F2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism isn't Leninism (IV)1:-1:-1

along with [Item]

Abandon Trotsky and Bolshevism has failed (📥 (pronounced proposed) / IV)1:-1:-1

forming from [Item]

Abandon Trotsky and Bolshevism has failed (📥 (pronounced proposed) / IV)1:-1:-1

Stalin expelled Trotskyists from CPSU (pronounced the party) (📥 (pronounced proposed) / IV)1:-1:-1

F2–4002 (pronounced 4002. (F2))[IV] [F2] (pronounced (Fourth) (F2):) (4002)Stalin's Marxism isn't Leninism (IV)1:-1:-1

Background

This proposition has two major forms: the positive claim that Stalin's Marxism is Leninism, and the negative claim that Stalin's Marxism is not Leninism. Because these propositions are about as close as an organic claim about reality can get to being perfect negations of each other, they have been combined into the same Item.

The main sense of this proposition, sense "ML", is the claim that the corpus of Marxist theory built up by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union prior to 1950 is a valid form of Marxism with nothing in particular to disqualify it — that if one considers most of the works of Lenin to be valid Marxism, then Lenin and Stalin have made similar numbers of errors and Stalin's contributions are approximately as valid. This particular Item does not attempt to set up Stalin's Marxism as "mainstream", even though there are good arguments for that, and this proposition can be used in the process of reaching them.

The second sense of this proposition, sense IV (pronounced Fourth), is the claim that by 1950 the theories of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union had become invalid and that at some point Stalin's contributions became unacceptable.

sense IV

This is the claim within Z–41,04 (pronounced 41,04. (Z))[IV] [Z] (pronounced (Fourth) (Z):) (4104)Trotskyism (top-level category) (IV) (pronounced (Fourth))1:-1:-1 that Z–41,03 (pronounced 41,03. (Z))[ML] [Z] (pronounced (ML) (Z):) mainstream Marxism-Leninism (ML) (pronounced (ML))1:-1:-1 is supposedly not either mainstream or Leninism. It rests on the implicit claim that Trotskyism is the only possible content of Leninism, and any "Leninism" which is not equivalent to Trotskyism is thus not a Leninism.

This claim is called into question by all the times that Trotsky had differences with Lenin and the two got into arguments. The trade unions incident of 1920 was one of the more notable of these mistakes: within it, Trotsky presented a garbled understanding of unions while Lenin had to lay out the actual relationship between a Leninist party and the trade unions as a "complex arrangement of pulleys" where wisdom and experts would need to filter into the party. If Trotsky did not understand how unions produce a Marxist party as the backbone of a workers' state three years after the Russian revolution, but Lenin did, this is not a good sign for Trotsky's legitimacy as the main theorist of Leninism. It is possible to attempt to argue against this observation from the angle that Trotskyism is a later variation of Leninism attempting to fix it by removing the parts which would produce a "Pig state" even as Lenin left them in. However, if one takes this point of view, it does not achieve the goal of aligning Trotsky with Lenin against Stalin; it would instead leave Lenin and Stalin aligned against Trotsky, meaning that Stalin is still the legitimate theoretical successor to Lenin. This problem only becomes glaringly obvious within a meta-Marxist framework, where neither Stalin nor Trotsky is taken as the only official Marxism. Within Trotskyism, it is not advantageous to label different schools of Marxism and model how each of them behaves as much as to support Marxisms that appear to be merging into Trotskyism and denounce all other Marxisms and their connected national independence struggles as threats to world revolution. Within mainstream Marxism-Leninism, theorists have been more open to understanding the behavior of Trotskyism than vice versa, even if this was primarily for the purpose of protecting workers' states by catching Trotskyite conspiracies. Stepping outside of Trotskyism, it becomes more obvious that Lenin's period, Stalin's period, and Trotskyist movements are all material-historical periods. To predict the behavior of each of these periods, we should understand them from their internal structure and how this structure interacts with itself. The internal content of Lenin's period and Stalin's period includes experts or "bureaucrats" in both cases, while the internal content of Trotskyism is different.

Trotsky's claim is not historically accurate and it does not show an understanding of the development of S–10,000 (pronounced 10,000. (S))[MX] [S] (pronounced (meta-) (S):) (10,000)plural Marxisms (MX) (pronounced (meta-))1:-1:-1 — not even to the advantage of Trotskyism as its own new Marxism. There is no meaningful way to say that this claim is true.