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Publishing entities, "Journey to the West" related Signifiers.

Entries for miscellaneous fictional works allowed. To be included, a work should have interesting literary motifs seen in multiple other works, include references to some kind of philosophical statement within some real-world philosophy, or include consistent fictional ontologies of imagined physics or processes. Fictional physics or processes also allowed.

fictional character
first-person narrator
second-person narrator -> see: Homestuck, narrator Chara
third-person narrator
narrator
point-of-view character
player character
non-player character (NPC)
hero
villain
antihero
antivillain
Good-aligned character
Neutral-aligned character
Evil-aligned character
Lawful-aligned character
Chaotic-aligned character
True-Neutral-aligned character
character alignment / moral alignment
I contain multitudes / I am all of me -> I suppose the closest tradition tag is Jungian psychoanalysis, given how it speaks about all the different "sides" of a single personality.
alignment axis
Law-Chaos axis -> in the first edition of Dungeons & Dragons alignment had nothing to do with Good and Evil and this was actually bordering on historical materialism; it was a mechanism for studying how fantasy history progresses. a Lawful/Chaotic distinction is outright originally intended to set up situations like an empire versus unruly peasants, or "built on the ashes of fae bones". a video creator tried to explain this by saying "in World War II, Britain won't ally with the Nazis", specifically meaning in this case that regardless of who is Evil particular nationalities or populations join up to defend some particular order or against a particular structure or ideology. Lawful/Chaotic is a lot like the Cold War: if capitalists are on the side of Law then unions are on the side of Chaos, although if a workers' state is created Bolshevism is the side of Law in its own region and the 1930s Trotskyite conspiracy is the side of Chaos. to be Lawful is simply to be on the side of a particular civilization or in modern terms an assembled Bauplan, while to be on the side of Chaos is to be against some highly specific order. the major "mistake" made with alignment across various fantasy media as time went on is to not realize that civilizations can be plural and to universalize Law as belonging to the whole universe rather than there being several different centers of Law such that in something like the Wings of Fire setting with different coalitions of warring dragons, you would have to be aligned to Lawful-A or Lawful-B, a single universal "Lawful" doesn't actually exist. why people make this "mistake" is complicated, but it seems connected to the choice to treat Law/Chaos as a strict cosmically-metaphysical slider where Chaos tears open all the rules of reality similar to an SCP anomaly. although fantasy can be anything, this seems like a bad choice if you want people to understand fantasy populations simply as periods of history where populations are in conflict and not as inherently Good or Evil. this mere transformation of Chaos into an alchemical quality of the universe inherently spawns implications that certain groups of people are the universe's favorites and certain groups are not, and like, trying to fix that by saying "they need to be balanced, we need both of them" is just both-sidesing medieval politics. if we literally thought that way about medieval England there would have been an ongoing controversy up to today about whether creating Liberalism and getting rid of monarchy was actually a good idea. as well, we'd be both-sidesing global empire and whether it's okay to keep people marginalized into tiny areas of l—... oh wait, we already do that every day. tabletop RPGs reveal a whole lot about Europeans, don't they?
Good-Evil axis
foreshadowing
grayble -> a specific kind of short story which has a theme in the sense of a writing prompt but is mistaken for having symbolism or lessons when it may not really have those. graybles sound infuriating but in my mind are actually pretty respectable. you'd think, when I get mad at Existentialism so often, that I'd hate the idea. but I don't. the notion of graybles expresses itself as Adventure Time goes on through the art of making a stupid meaningless story and then explicitly being aware of that and pointing it out with unnecessarily thoughtful philosophy. and I actually like that, even as some people seem to have not understood it and hated it. it cements that the "stupid" nature of Adventure Time plots is a stylization and not something the authors do because they're bad at writing actually-good narratives, or because they're useful idiots to Liberalism/capitalism/Existentialism (although there could be a bit to unpack with that last one of the three) and make misinforming narratives because it socially supports them and pays them to.
grayble foreshadowing -> when a lot of people in the audience mistake simple foreshadowing of a fictional historical event for meaningful symbolism, either unintentionally or as the author intends. I didn't really get the joke behind the graybles until seasons 8-10 when I fully identified grayble foreshadowing that was very confusable for a message about character development and was like. ah. I see it now. I think there is also a lot of grayble foreshadowing in FNaF. people genuinely take some of the clues as symbolic when they truly only refer to characters or processes or things in a superficial visual kind of way. one thing I think isn't true is that grayble foreshadowing is exactly the same as Chekov's gun, because grayble foreshadowing seems to be a statement about history in the sense of the history of fictional worlds or the history of fictional characters' lives. grayble foreshadowing is a statement that somewhat-arbitrary things drive history within fiction, but it's still history.
A plan the story gives away will fail / Scooby-Doo rule -> if the story details the plan, it will fail, if it doesn't detail the plan it will probably succeed
bookman's bluff / scottcon -> when a story hints something so vaguely you can't solve it and then it solves the same clues in a different way than expected later; when the story is unsolvable because it spontaneously makes up its own solutions rather than having clear processes or events-happening inside it.
"Calvinball"
Calvinball -> like bookman's bluff / scottcon, only it actually succeeds.
All arrangements of things begin as fictions / All arrangements of people begins as ontologies (socially-constructed or imagined orders which might vaguely be possible in reality; chaos magic, Existentialist cybernetics) -> kind of. sort of. if you took this and restricted it a whole lot it would somewhat be true. like, don't connect this to Free Will, don't you dare do that, but if you managed to not go there, then yes, many things about society and even causality inside society are "put together" as a designed or undesigned construct before they are actually realized. I call them Philosophical Systems of ontologies embedded inside groups of people to produce Social-Philosophical Systems. but I am reasonably sure they're real. this + (something bad which is charcoal?) = Culture is just the series of signs people make up
Kirby Does His Taxes / Mario Stands Still -> I forgot about this until somebody brought up "Mario Stands Still" to explain Deltarune. Kirby Does His Taxes will always be the better form though
Science fiction is just nonsensical physics -> not very controversial. science fiction begins with physics discoveries, hypotheses in various fields of science, and the application of physics or general mathematics to create hypothetical technologies or worlds. warp drives. four-dimensional worlds. it's kind of all just applying advanced mathematics to storytelling.
Fantasy is the best history test / Fantasy is just nonsensical history -> the more fantasy books I read the more I see this particular hypothesis building up that the impulse behind writing fantasy is to play with the causal mechanisms of history and try to slowly figure out what they are. science fiction can sidestep the actual way anyone gets to the future to focus on hypothetical technologies or forms of physics, but in a weird way, fantasy is almost inherently more progressive than sci-fi if you aren't too stupid to see it. although science fiction often does focus on analyzing civilizations in series such as Star Trek, fantasy is inherently more barebones in its palette of concepts in a way that often immediately forces it to reckon with the workings of societies. fantasy grounds itself in things like social structures, wars, nationalities and identities, whether particular civilizations are good or bad, who should be in power, and how imagined historical periods give way to other periods containing different civilizations. sometimes it seems like there is no difference between the categories of fantasy and politics, because a great heap of the things that happen in fantasy books are just medieval politics, and existing notions like Law/Chaos axes naturally lend themselves to fantasy stories about such things as characters slipping out of existing structures or patterns to discover LGBT identities. fantasy stories have all the puzzle pieces to turn into a believable imagined account of history where the material processes inside particular kingdoms, populations, or worlds actually unfold in understandable ways into new historical periods for centuries and centuries and you can actually trace through a fictional world's past and possible future(s) without any of it being arbitrary. if you actually understand history, fantasy is wired. I'm convinced that fantasy stories could teach the crustiest White people to actually understand historical materialism, maybe even more effectively than actual history could. in real-life history if somebody asks you to guess what happens next you always have "the answers at the back of the book", while fantasy is genuinely a blank history test you have to fill in. the act of creating fantasy is an act of showing that there really is such a thing as historical materialism and "history in general" without the content of a specific country. if that's not the case, how do people evaluate whether a fantastical history is convincing? why would there be a discussion about that where people have different opinions? I believe it all traces back to fantasy largely being simple representational art with regard to the processes that create real-world history. when people call for Media Representation in fantasy what they mean to say is that, because reality is stranger than fiction, in their attempt to represent the general concept of history current fantasy stories are overlooking a whole bunch of real-world historical events. it's one thing to say a story is technically unrealistic, and another to say it's literally missing information about reality that's making the representational art worse, which in this case is the complaint.
text claims to be bunch of senseless events, becomes discussion on history / work claims to be a bunch of senseless events, ends up a discussion on history -> happened in both Adventure Time and Dragon Ball. it's funny how works that intend to show that history is senseless actually just end up discussing the proposition it can be understood. no matter how much they try to turn around and say the characters' efforts to understand it are in vain. the point of the work is still to say that not being able to understand and steer history is a problem.
Unless society is magic, there will be Communism / If society does not run on magic, Marxism-Leninism is not ruled out -> follows from: The heart of Marxism is historical materialism / Proposition zero of Marxism is historical materialism
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Materialist analyses cannot truly be owned / Materialist analyses of fiction are the only ones which cannot be attacked by capitalists -> a little subjective, but a very interesting argument to step through. information which is empirically observable can never be copyrighted, no matter how bad copyright policies get. you can never truly copyright an observation such as that hydrogen and hydroxide make water, or the earth is round, or religion exists, or countries exist, or science fiction books in general exist. but how far does this go? given a complete enough ontology of every generic thing that exists, could you build a literary analysis of a work of fiction which is totally uncopyrightable to the point it can never be taken down by a copyright claim, as long as it is very clearly an analysis and not a copy of the work? I think there's reason to believe the answer is "yes". and if that's the case. every analysis of art which is based on somebody's academic theory of social construction and utopianism and ideals is vulnerable to being taken away from people when a group of bourgeoisie bands together and decides to make life difficult for people, but comparatively, Materialist analyses are impervious to this. a Third World country or cluster of workers can have all the Materialist analyses it wants to and they can never be taken away. it can build them all from the ground up at any time without needing to access anything or anyone in particular. Materialist analyses are the only thing that perfectly suits this disgusting world of copyright and spatial slot hierarchies and defining people as isolated pockets of wealth with legs and trying to divide concepts up into people and make them totally synonymous with toxic gatekeepers and claiming that China building civilization again in parallel to the United States is "stealing" the inherent containment of concepts and culture-simply-existing into toxic individuals; if that's going to continue this is the one thing that can exist alongside all that and survive all that. Materialist analyses are even resilient to Marxisms fracturing into different blocs and denying things from each other. basically, if you want knowledge and palettes of artistic concepts to survive nearly anything, create a Materialist analysis and stay far, far away from artisanal conceptions of anything which even open the door for it to have an official shop or an official inventor. no library of Alexandria can be burned which was never inherently Greek.
Fiction doesn't teach us anything -> Aron Ra's proposition. I don't think it's true, on a subtle level of failing the question-begging test. it's technically accurate to say fiction doesn't contain any educational information. but that's not what people usually mean by the statement "fiction teaches us". they are referring to a more abstract notion of learning by picking up general patterns and comparing analogies to the real world — a process of building ontological models through true or untrue scenarios using every scenario as a thought experiment. if you do that systematically enough it's essentially similar to applying a scientific method in different environments, although it entails you'll probably stop believing in Christianity after reading a few secular books and the bible and trying to compare all of them to each other and real life.
Fiction is educational -> for a very long time I had a hard time believing this, although I never would have said that fiction doesn't teach people about creating art or about using language — only that there is an open question on whether it teaches people about ""life"". typically when people say this they mean that it teaches about "experiences", and gives people a model of a demographic of people without exclusively boxing them into a stereotype.
Narratives exist to portray possible societies or situations -> this answer is fully compatible with historical materialism, or at least existential materialism. it allows weaving ties between the individual and historical period.
Narratives exist to depict each possible kind of individual / Narratives exist to tell us about individuals -> this is the answer I do not like. it's drenched in intentional or unintentional psychoanalysis. and I'd argue it ultimately encourages racism, simply because it encourages treating past hardships as irrelevant to current individual lives while treating the successes of current individuals as un-repeatable flukes. without a causal analysis of history and historical patterns you lose the ability to argue for consistent and cumulative social progress really quickly.
Why do narratives exist?
Non-fiction doesn't teach us anything -> counter to Aron Ra's proposition. if you actually understand the way people learn, though ontological models and metaphors, it's easy to see how a factual book could fail to teach people anything because they can't understand it through their current models and fail to believe that it looks plausible. in some cases people don't learn well through facts and learn better through questions. but I think the "street epistemology" concept is shortsighted too, because you have to ask what it is about questions that actually makes them work.
fake historical period / fake, bad history -> the motif of bad events in history being treated as a detour from "real" history. this motif is orange because, quite honestly, this is exactly what the Trotskyite conspiracy was alleging against Stalin's government, whether you commandeer Zinovievism as supposedly being Liberalism or whether you interpret it as saying Trotskyism is the real history. (my response, always: then why hasn't it happened yet??) famously this motif also comes up in the Christian bible, with the hypothetical reign of the antichrist being a kind of fake historical period, or the reign of the Roman emperors being suggested as one.
The only explanation of history is the defiance of history / The only explanation of historical patterns is the defiance of historical patterns -> this claim is inherently contradictory because it proposes an explanation of history, which is forbidden by the claim; the claim forbids itself. there is one way to fix it: cross out the word "defiance" and propose that Free Will and The Subject are material phenomena which can themselves be studied by historical materialism and reduced down to a number of partly-predictable patterns. this produces existential materialism.
The only explanation of defying history is history / The only explanation of the defiance of historical patterns is historical patterns -> fixed it. funny how if you say almost the exact opposite of what Existentialists say it actually begins to make sense again.
History is the progression of family units / History is the progression of lines of Lived Experiences -> psychohistory proposition, often casually put forward by many people who have no idea what Lacanianism or psychohistory is, simply because Existentialism Is The Simplest Philosophy Which Everybody Already Believes. recently tossed out as an explanation for how war veterans coming back causes damage to family unit psychology, and presumably to national culture. [1] something is wrong with this logic: okay, but what causes countries to go to war and rack up trauma in the first place?
tangent: this came up in My Pride, the questionably-written show about the lions. and it caught me off guard because I immediately noticed that choosing to interpret tribal culture as a progression of family units instead of as history is an active choice you make that can editorialize and ideologically frame the events of the story if you're not careful.
History is the progression of groups operating -> this claim entails that even if the study of historical materialism up to now is wrong or lacking, Bolshevism could still be correct for reasons other than the reasons it believed to be its explanation. namely, Bolshevism could be correct because it is a sensible method of ordering people into a nation-state and functional nation-states are nearly fundamental.
History is the progression of class struggles / All history ... is the history of class struggles -> have to get the classic one in there. not really exclusive with "history is the progression of groups operating", as these two things simply happen on different scales. group operating (countable area of capitalism), class struggle, rupture, group operating (named Marxism). the only serious difference is that "groups operating" allows modeling Trotskyism as its own phenomenon in parallel to mainstream Marxism-Leninism, or different anarchisms, an instance of Deng Xiaoping Thought, etc.
Biographies only have one ending -> this is one of the falsest things I have ever heard that people still keep saying. literally using biographies as the example the whole point of reading them is that different things happen in them, meaning they have different endings. this is a very important distinction because this difference in "endings" provides a material difference which can become a pattern that can be studied and in some cases broadly repeated.
Because all biographies have one ending, we can only reinterpret them -> no. is that how people created the underground railroad and slipped out of slavery? reinterpreting how bad they think their situation is and how bad it is or isn't to inevitably die? this is one of the only things worse than saying Free Will explains all history.
Biographies have many different endings -> I don't have an example text right now but I swear the Bolshevik party knew this. look at what happened afterward. before 1900 people in Russia and China had one kind of ending. after 1930 their stories had new kinds of endings. this is almost the definition of what history is. if people didn't have different endings, we'd all live in an episodic sitcom and nothing would build on anything else.
The life of a bisexual has at least two endings / The biography of a bisexual has at least two possible endings -> this seems pretty self-evident, yet somehow nobody thinks of it. bisexuals break psychoanalysis. and they break Existentialism because there isn't necessarily an inherently better individual choice, but there are still multiple outcomes.
Boring relationships in Warriors happen due to psychohistorical biases -> if you think the story of an individual life has only one ending, it's awfully tempting to slot every single individual into the same trite, boring heterosexual romance. diversity of gender and sexuality alone leads to multiple endings.
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Some of Western Marxism isn't Marxism / Most of Western Marxism isn't Marxism -> the claim that adding early-existentialism to Marxism may turn it into not being Marxism because it encourages replacing historical materialism with historical existentialism. or similar rather-specific claims involving particular parts of Western "Marxism".
Lacanianism aims to replace historical materialism with psychohistory / Freudians are trying to create a non-Marxist replacement for historical materialism, and that alternative is psychohistory -> I could really tell something was up with Lacanianism shortly after I heard of it but had so much trouble fully explaining exactly what they were trying to replace Marxism with. I'm more confident now that I found the actual name of the thing. Rothenberg and Žižek's whole weird bridge about Heidegger is this: Marx bad because the development of populations is the physical and intellectual development of a cloud of brains. what they don't realize is that this is equating history with culture. practically speaking, the total or average behavior of a cloud of individuals is that group's culture. so if you think history is most explainable through psychology, you're pretty much necessarily asking how the culture of a group of people develops and why people are Spanish or German — as well as how they could stop being Spanish when they happen to have a definition of what their country means to them which is bad. this is so much more offensive than Marxism, because if Marxism says bad things about "the bourgeoisie" or what should happen to them, it also makes no serious effort to mess with what anybody believes to be Chinese or North Korean, and limits itself to the practical study of how an existing group of people can build a republic, industrial structures, and various possible stages of development. the premise of psychohistory implies there are superior and inferior Cultures and societal transition means transitioning Cultures into a different Culture. the implication of Deleuze & Guattari's concept of "plateaus" next to psychohistory existing unchallenged (though that relationship is only "as far as I can tell") is that separating Germany off into East Germany and West Germany is bad but staying "in-between" by making people not be Germans and making them all be Better Germans is okay. what makes people go for this? what makes us think this kind of framework is acceptable?
Deltarune is an example of historical existentialism [2] -> the claim that Deltarune broadly (not necessarily super literally) embodies the concept of treating history as something that can always be defied; this claim is blue because an Existentialist also could and would make this claim. to be precise, Deltarune only talks about prophecies and narratives, but whether in reality or fiction history is a narrative, so the claim would be that Deltarune throwing around tropes about prophecies and narratives is significant because these tropes resonate with the way players intuitively want to understand history. you can see a similar thing going on in Wings of Fire: wars in a Europe-like "fantasy World War I" setting should be a matter of history, but again history is being spun solely as a matter of Free Will, especially in the Pantala arc which is literally covering the history of where the earliest wars came from. back to Deltarune: there is a really really common motif people have when talking about it: the only kind of story there can ever possibly be is the story of an individual life, therefore, all discussions about prophecy tropes are appropriate to relate back to a single human life cycle and the fact they all end in death, the "one ending" to life. only.... that is not true. that is not even true. you'd know this if you live in the United States, where some people died slaves and some people died free. that's not the same ending! people genuinely have different endings to their lives because of the fact history exists. it's flat out beneficial to racists to pretend that everyone has the same life cycle and the same ending, because if everybody's life begins and ends the same way they can then act like the era of slavery is totally irrelevant and can be left out of history books just because it's not happening any more. the really sad thing is that progressive Existentialism will put this lesson into the meat grinder too, by claiming that slavery is a deviation from history rather than being part of history, because the only real history is the history created by Free Will, and everything else is fake history, essentially. fake history that bad people concocted the contents of and then enacted but which overall taught people nothing and got in the way of real correct history unfolding that would actually teach people something. but, again, if bad history isn't real history there's a terrifyingly good argument to leave it out of textbooks, because if only Free Will matters in writing the future, wouldn't it be better to leave out everything White supremacists ever did and fill textbooks only with progressive incidents that taught people how to build the future? I hate that idea but I'm just a dumb Communist, I'm not an expert, intelligent postcolonial anarchist Lacanian. so you know, I've gotta stop being such a freedom-hating dictator for just a moment and give the actual "good" ideas a try.
player as relative to game
anachronistic technology / technological anachronism
Technology shows what year a story takes place in / Technology can be used to tell what historical period of the world a story takes place in -> that would be true if you knew exactly what country was the most accurate to compare it to and mapped out all the historical periods of that country.
as for the whole world... wouldn't you have to factor in global empire, and separate the local creation (enforcement) of colonial periods from before that? technology doesn't seem like as big a change as a whole colonial period falling down on India or Africa. is this why people are so obsessed with the word "colonialism"? because they can't conceptualize history as not being the history of the whole world and are trying to map out the whole world's colonial period? the problem is that's still stupid. Spain can't stop France's colonial period if it wanted to; they're going to be separate colonial periods. there's not really any such thing as a single world colonial period as far as the question of preventing it.
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80 years before 2003, there were fast cars / 80 years before 2003, there were 60-mile-per-hour cars (96 kilometers per hour; anachronistic device) / 80 years before 2003, there were wrecking balls [3] -> a funny little reasoning error that can be found in books taking place in a particular time period which aren't primarily meant as historical fiction but end up reaching decades into the past. pointed out by many people analyzing Warriors.
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The history of slavery doesn't belong in textbooks -> no need to spend much time on the actual reactionary arguments, none of which are worth anything. I'm much more interested in the potential arguments that teaching about the history of racism is theoretically unnecessary for anti-racists just because most of them reject historical materialism, and if historical materialism is truly unnecessary and you really can fix everything with Free Will and protests and inclusion and Community, the hardships of the past should in theory be less relevant than the study of actively constructing the future. I feel like what I've really uncovered is the potential racism of anarchism, how utopian thinking could potentially crush people of various demographics under the material hardships they currently face which stand in the way of simply moving on.
An ending amid slavery is a different outcome / An ending amid slavery is different from an ending amid none / A book that ends within a time of slavery is a different ending than a book which ends in a time of no slavery -> apparently ordinary people are too stupid for this proposition to be blue, and that's a shame.
An ending amid monarchy is a different outcome -> the charcoal swatch manages this one because Wings of Fire was able to figure out this much, although the ultimate implications of the books are... odd. it's left, like Warriors, implying that monarchy is bad but endless brutality and death between nationalities is almost better and needs no real apologies.
speedrun
challenge run
seemingly-impossible challenge run
but first we need to talk about parallel universes
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An RPG world is a cultural fabrication / An RPG world is a social construct or magic circle, or "game" in the Idealist linguistics sense / Given a particular console RPG world such as Moon or Undertale, an RPG world is a cultural fabrication (idea-based fabrication; Idealism) / An RPG world is a magic circle, and this means all of it is at least somewhat arbitrary
fantasy war as cultural fabrication / fantasy war as social construct (idea-based fabrication; Idealism) -> this is Q61,10 in reference to books, or anything.
RPG war as cultural fabrication / RPG war as social construct (idea-based fabrication; Idealism) -> this is Q61,10 in reference to tabletop or video games but not books.
RPG world as cultural fabrication / RPG universe or cosmos as cultural fabrication -> Q61,10 as a basic assumption of a work.
shutting down story as horror / shutting down fictional narrative as destroying story characters -> although it's difficult to fully guess where Deltarune is going, this seems to be the major twist versus Undertale, which Ralsei unsubtly hints toward in Chapters 3-4. Undertale presents you with the thesis that the monsters can be freed if you just choose to; Deltarune poses a more difficult question of whether you can ever free the characters the way it appears they are in Undertale if they stop existing when the game shuts off.
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RPG progression as horror / game progression as horror -> Undertale; Deltarune chapter 3; FNaF Security Breach & Gregory destroying not-so-scary artificial beings.
Game worlds are not cultural fabrications -> a little controversial. this claim is not an absolute one about all situations, and it rests on the concept that recognizing game or book worlds as imagined material systems of parts is actually one of the major things that helps connect them to history and become aware of how they have been influenced by empire, country-internal racism, and populational prejudices that have followed historical events. said another way: coding is to individuals as fictional material-history is to real history. some people still won't like this claim. and to them what I will say is: if Idealism fully explains fiction, then Stalin's government commissioning books full of proletarian values can convince everyone to abandon capitalism. do you think such an initiative would work on you? if not, reconsider Idealism.
Novels about Communism can change everyone's minds / If fictional narratives are truly social constructs, and writing a book that rewrites all the social constructs can truly change people's way of thinking about how to regenerate society when it comes to things like empire or prejudices or the environment, then handing everyone a book that accurately represents Bolshevism will make everyone stop regenerating Liberalism and turn people into Communists -> I really don't believe this is true by itself but it's definitely funny.
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SCP-pronounced 6302 -> SCP where you start seeing Warriors in real life. I hope this one doesn't get removed because it would be useful for the Trotsky's letters scenario. I mean, what if the books are just fracturing reality and both realities exist. what if this SCP is part of the Pitch Haven continuity and the staff didn't interpret it right? what would that do for the "narratives" narrative — is the past just whatever people think it is?
I do know that even if this SCP does get removed I'll keep this Item here either way just for reference.
Trotsky wrote in a parallel reality / Trotsky's letters describe an alternate reality / Trotsky's writings describe a parallel universe / Trotsky's writings describe a parallel reality where different things happened (counterfactual statement or thought experiment) -> this was the concept of an SCP report I was trying to create semi-recently. I don't know if I'll finish it. either way, the basic idea is now here in case it proves useful for illustrating something else.
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SCP Foundation Wikis
SCP foundation database -> runs narratively parallel to: Pokédex. it killed me when a commenter on an audiobook said "the SCP Foundation is just playing Pokémon on impossible difficulty". yeah, sure, I mean, they both have a serialized index of things
elemental card color (Arcmage)
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Gaian card / earth color card (darkmage)
Red Banner card / sun color card (darkmage)
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House of Nobles card / sea color card (darkmage)
Empire card / steel color card (darkmage)
Shadow Legion card / death color card (darkmage) -> I arranged these in rough order of good to evil because I wasn't sure there was a particular established faction ring for this game. this is/was the order used by darkmage prototypes. but you've gotta put Red Banner at 84, come on.
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elemental card color (Magic)
Pokémon Go teams are evil organizations / Pokémon Go teams represent evil organizations -> the devs kind of invited this theory by improperly using the word "Team" when it already had a use in Pokémon referring to fantasy mafias. never a substantial theory but definitely a funny writers' error to point out.
Pokémon Go teams represent sectarian Marxisms -> cracktheory / joke interpretation. it's very funny to imagine a world where that was actually the case though. imagine three legendary Pokémon but one is Trotskyism (valor), one is Gramscianism (instinct), and one is... uh. um. MDem? it's purple. it's purple and it's sharp and cutting. I hate that but I almost like that.
Pokémon Go teams resemble world wars / Pokémon Go teams represent warring kingdoms -> this is what I've thought there's always been an argument for. graph struggle itself makes its way into games accidentally when they copy earlier games more closely based on history. earlier games are war games with world maps or board game battles; fantasy games mindlessly copy patterns of empire. with Pokémon Go... let's think about it. we begin with Ingress. Ingress is kind of an alien invasion plot. but practically it's a war game, it has a world war structure. so yeah. Pokémon Go copied world wars but with three factions when for various reasons there's usually two.
white card (Magic)
blue card (Magic)
black card (Magic)
red card (Magic)
green card (Magic) -> WUBRG; W(bU)(Bl)RG
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Magic: the Gathering (1993 - present)
(62-6300: Magic: the Gathering sets, not totally exhaustive. list of sets being compiled here)
Twelve things form a Chinese zodiac / Twelve things means Chinese astrology
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Dark Fountain
Yume Nikki
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Super Sentai (metaseries) / Super Squad (unofficial name)
Uchū Sentai Kyuranger [vol. 41] / Space Squad Kyuranger
Power Rangers (abridged-series)
Himitsu Sentai Gorenger [vol. 1] (1975) / Secret Squad Gorenger
J.A.K.Q. Dengekitai [vol. 2] (1977) / JAKQ Blitz Squad
Battle Fever J [vol. 3] (1979)
Denshi Sentai Denziman [vol. 4] (1980) / Electric Squad Denziman / Electronic Squad Denziman
Taiyo Sentai Sun Vulcan [vol. 5] (1981) / Solar Squad Sun Vulcan
Dai Sentai Goggle-V [vol. 6] (1982)
Kagaku Sentai Dynaman [vol. 7] (1983) / Science Squad Dynaman
Chodenshi Bioman [vol. 8] (1984) / Super Electronic Squad Bioman
Dengeki Sentai Changeman [vol. 9] (1985) / Blitz Squad Changeman
Choshinsei Flashman [vol. 10] (1986)
Hikari Sentai Maskman [vol. 11] (1987)
Choju Sentai Liveman [vol. 12] (1988) / Super Beast Squad Liveman
Kousoku Sentai Turboranger [vol. 13] (1989) / Lightspeed Squad Turboranger
Chikyu Sentai Fiveman [vol. 14] (1990)
Chojin Sentai Jetman [vol. 15] (1991) / Aviator Squad Jetman
Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger [vol. 16] (1992) / Dino Squad Zyuranger
Gosei Sentai Dairanger [vol. 17] (1993)
Ninja Sentai Kakuranger [vol. 18] (1994)
Choriki Sentai Ohranger [vol. 19] (1995)
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twelve or more -> precise order of magnitude
exactly twelve -> precise order of magnitude
Twelve things form a European zodiac / Twelve things means European astrology
Homestuck - included almost just as a joke, but the number is nice
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beam balance of justice
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A correct religion explains all cultures / The correct religion will explain all countries / The correct religion will be a universal morality / The correct religion will unite everyone onto the same morality consisting of the same universal human values of what is right and wrong -> although many religions superficially claim this, this proposition has to be violet because practically no real religion ever actually creates an account of history and everyone's actions which is meta-ontologically sound across different groups of people. honorable mention goes to theosophy though, for at least trying to squash together all the religions.
Christianity is not the correct religion / Assuming that there is a religion which is most consistent with reality, it is not Christianity -> well, it doesn't endorse realizing Trotskyism just to not extinguish Trotsky, so. can it really have the only correct morality for the world?
Islam is not the correct religion / Assuming that there is a religion which is most consistent with reality, it is not Islam -> it typically says you go to heaven only when you believe so it doesn't say Trotsky can be in not separation from God.
Buddhism is not the correct religion / Assuming that there is a religion which is most consistent with reality, it is not Buddhism -> I don't have an interesting argument for this one but it's here for completeness.
Schizoanalysis is not the correct religion / Schizoanalysis is not the one true morality of the universe -> if schizoanalysis were a religion it would say that the majority of people who form into Rhizome are not against heaven. but in practice, the majority of people are often against Bolshevism, which means they are against Trotskyism, which means they erase Trotsky's Lived Experience, which means schizoanalysis cannot be the correct morality.
no, I don't take religion very seriously. I think religion is one of the craziest concepts and it opens up some really fun thought experiments. but I absolutely do not take it seriously, because if religion has any chance of being real then something happened to Trotsky in particular when he died, and isn't that an absolutely absurd statement already? we can have stacks of biographies about one person, Trotsky or Martin Luther King Jr. or Albert Einstein or Kent Hovind or whoever you like, and have no idea what would have supposedly happened to that person after death. even psychoanalysis and psychohistory can try to spitball about what consequences happen to a person later based on previous choices and near-future predicted choices, as incorrect as the guesses could potentially be. but if you try to do the same with life versus afterlife you can't even get to the modest level of accuracy or certainty about reality that psychoanalysis can.
The correct religion is not existentialism / Early-existentialism is not the correct universal morality / Assuming that there is a religion which is most consistent with reality, it is not early-existentialism -> if everyone makes their own meaning, then there won't be a single moral position on Stalin, or a single moral position on Trotskyism, which violates Q64,50.
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"cancer" refers to crabs
end-of-the-world scenario -> referencing SCP-ES-084, one of them where people think the world is going to end. but highly appropriate to put next to Homestuck, I mean that's exactly how it begins
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God wants us to love our neighbor regardless of ideology / God wants us to love our neighbor regardless of nationality, political party, or other distinction -> now that is a whopper if I ever saw one. you put together "nationality, political party, or other distinction" and the first thing I think of is a pronounced fucking Trotskyist party. I think there is a really good case to be made that when you've said those three categories it totally counts. but I am pretty sure that most people wouldn't turn around and say "oh, if the United States is slated to be taken over by some kind of Leninist movement they're my neighbors so all of that is totally okay". nobody turns around and says "hey, wait, I don't think the Cold War is very Christian, I think we have to stop it".
God wants us to love social-democrats / God wants us to love Mensheviks
God wants us to love anarchists
God wants us to welcome gay people / God wants us to welcome gay men / God wants us to welcome lesbians
God wants us to welcome trans people / God wants us to welcome gender identity
God wants us to welcome Black people even if they are poor
God wants us to love Trotskyists
God wants us to love Leninists / God wants us to love Marxists / God wants us to love Stalin-followers
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If all countries will be one in the end times, the world is our neighbor / If everyone will be one population in the end times, other countries are our neighbor / If everyone will be one population of Christians in the end times, but people everywhere are divided into many levels of plural populations now, then the Soviet Union was our neighbor, and we did not love our neighbor / Vietnam is our neighbor / China is our neighbor
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The wolf shall dwell with the lamb / The wolf and the lamb shall graze together / lion laying down with the lamb -> seen in many different bible verses, several in the book of Isaiah. perhaps one of the single most interesting things said in the Christian bible because A) it creates logically coherent narratives, even if ecologically inaccurate in the real world and B) it acts as one of the central themes driving many of the books. Q3009 "lion of kindness" should be considered a component of this proposition
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Trotsky's actions were ungodly or weren't / Trotsky's actions were ungodly or not / What Trotsky did was either against heaven or not against heaven (Trotsky's actions, Trotskyite conspiracy, Trotskyism; thought experiment around religion) / Trotsky either entered separation from God or did not separate from God / Imagining that there is a Bad Place, Trotsky either went to the Bad Place or did not go to the Bad Place
The correct religion is not anti-Trotsky / The correct religion will not be anti-Trotsky / Any religion which is the correct religion must entertain that Trotsky is a part of its group of approved people -> I don't see why this wouldn't be correct from the perspective of everyone who lives in the United States and has practically canonized him in the list of required philosophers next to all the presidents.
Backing Trotsky against Stalin is godly / Siding with Trotsky against Stalin is godly / When the United States sides with Trotsky against Stalin, this is because Trotsky is not against God / Any correct religion or interpretation of Abrahamic religions would send Trotsky to the Good Place for resisting Stalin -> I would not think this is logically true, but statistically speaking, the vast number of people who are Christians probably do. this would be an artifact of being Christian and being Liberal-republican being separate things, of course.
Backing Stalin against Trotsky is godly / Siding with Stalin against Trotsky is godly -> I feel like from maybe five different angles this is logically true.
If Trotsky is Good, become a Trotskyist / If Trotsky goes to heaven, Trotskyism is okay / In order to back Trotsky against Stalin you also must realize Trotskyism, or you are lying to your supposed allies and everybody / If oppressing Trotsky is morally wrong then not aiding Trotsky in realizing Trotskyism is morally wrong, because practically speaking, not oppressing Trotsky requires realizing Trotskyism -> the whole reason Trotsky made noise and kicked up a movement, historically, was that he wanted to realize Trotskyism, and he was specifically determined to be upset when people stopped him from realizing Trotskyism. nobody actually thinks about this.
God can fight against Iraq / God participates in the Iraq war / If the United States prays to God and God helps the United States against Iraq, then the United States is not in separation from God (not against God; thought experiment)
God helped the United States beat Iraq / God helps the United States beat Iraq / If the United States prays to God for help against Iraq and the United States doesn't lose, then the United States is not in separation from God (not against God; thought experiment) -> this is marked false on the technicality that it is a logical fallacy and beginning from standard Christian theology — "God doesn't prevent Evil so we can have Free Will" — you can't actually know that something winning a conflict isn't the Evil side rather than the Good side. it'd be perfectly consistent with a lot of what Christianity says for empire to win at beating up the Third World and also be utterly Evil and against God.
really, the easiest way to know this proposition is wrong? it doesn't apply to Dragon Ball. if Freeza wins it doesn't mean he's Good. if Vegeta is full of hope and confidence about the future that is best for him, we'll say that stands in for prayer here, he can win at beating up all the people of earth and it doesn't mean he's Good.
The Soviet Union functioned as a political faction / During the Cold War the Soviet Union functioned as a political faction / During the Cold War the Soviet Union served as one of the world's capable proletarian subpopulations, and thus Soviet politicians in general had a partisan alignment with the proletariat even if not every one of them was perfect
Universal morality means one position on Stalin / A universal morality will have just one position on Stalin / If everyone is to have the same morality, then they must have the same moral opinions about Bolshevism, and the same moral opinions about Stalin
Applying any philosophy to Trotsky eventually gets you to the correct answers + Historical figures can separate from God = this.
The Cold War was a social construct / The opposition of Liberal-republican countries against the Soviet Union was nothing more than a social construct in which Liberal-republican countries made up reasons to hate the 14 nationalities of the Soviet Union for reasons largely unrelated to the class composition of the two countries, and related more to the affinity between the 14 major Soviet ethnic groups and the anomalous, hateful non-affinity between the United States and those ethnic groups -> persuade me of this using specifically the Russian Revolution, the Soviet Union, and the Cold War, and I might genuinely consider postcolonial anarchisms. I feel like the difficulty of arguing that verges on impossible, but maybe that's just me. I've made it a little easier by leaving out the requirement that anarchism explains how to defeat the Russian empire or win the Cold War, and only handing you the impossible task of arguing Soviet people and United States racists who to this day can hardly stand the idea of somebody living in another country and being Russian are obligated to be friends. that's what I don't understand. how, when United States people are constantly dismissing the existence of reactionaries in their own country as a totally ignorable non- part of their lives, that anarchisms or postcolonial theories that say every opposition between groups of people is an arbitrary decision each group made are supposed to fix anything.
The Cold War could be won by anarchism
The Russian Revolution could be won by anarchism
The United States and Soviet Union could abolish their borders to join into a single entity -> if this were true the previous three propositions would become easier to argue.
The Soviet Union's border was protective / The way populations associated together into the Soviet Union and formed a border around themselves was materially necessary to protecting the populations -> this explains, so very unfortunately, why it would be so important to create a new Russian Empire. no Soviet Union, everyone who hasn't been forced to another country is going to get assimilated into a single gigantic kingdom for the pure purposes of protecting national autonomy. the step of "democracy" can't happen until national autonomy exists.
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The best ending is between the normal and weird routes (Deltarune)
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progressive theorists as aliens / progressive theorists are practically aliens (Homestuck) / social justice theorists speak another language -> Kankri Vantas. it's important to note that Homestuck's overall framing of this is a little more neutral than negative. Homestuck can be simultaneously both really negative about its characters at some times and positive about them at other times, in this weird attitude of "they're complete freaks but they're my freaks". so ultimately this motif is treating progressive theorists as weird, bizarre, and alien, but alien in the sense of a sci-fi story where even if people will never understand aliens they still exist out in space doing their own thing and have lives of their own. it's kind of like Undertale/Deltarune, where we accept that queer people are monsters and then we instead reclaim "monster".
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You can be against Goku or not / You have to be either against Goku or not / You have to be against Harry Potter or not against Harry Potter / For any figure held up as the model of morality, whether god or hero, somebody must be either not against that figure or against that figure -> this is a far cleaner division than "for versus against", because it allows for the existence of multiple "gods", moralities, or cultures.
Attacking anyone pro-Goku is anti-Goku / Attacking any group which is completely for Goku is against Goku / Attacking any group which is directly allied with Harry Potter means you are against Harry Potter / Attacking anyone directly allied with Arceus means you are against Arceus -> this is pretty easy to demonstrate with fiction. when allies of Good characters are attacked whoever does it is usually treated as Evil. if Ron is allied with Harry and the Death Eaters attack Ron, the Death Eaters are Evil, or at the very least anti-Harry. that's the obvious part. what isn't obvious to people is it's very easy to conceptualize religion in these terms. the way Arceus will be treated in a wholly imaginary Pokémon movie is fairly similar to the way people behave in real religions — the reality of the god is not important to people's behavior as much as what faction is seen attacking what faction or figurehead that is considered Good.
Actions must be either ungodly or not / Actions must either be ungodly, not ungodly (neutral), or godly -> this seems like a necessary axiom if there is to be a concept of separation from God at all. like, imagine Goku gets to determine everything that's good. you have to at least be either not against Goku or against Goku, even though nobody really has to be directly allied with Goku.
Historical figures can separate from God / Historical figures can enter separation from God, mostly in respect to the material world and the presence of a god in the material world
It's ungodly to be Hitler / Hitler went to Hell or entered separation from God in the material world (Christianity) -> fair enough, if religion made any sense whatsoever this would be true.
It's ungodly to be Mussolini
It's ungodly to be Tōjō -> logically true if it's ungodly to be Hitler, because they share the political positions of active imperialism and violence against people inside the country.
It's ungodly to imperialize Ukraine -> logically true if it's ungodly to be Hitler, Mussolini, or Tojo.
It's godly to defend Ukraine -> arguably true if it's ungodly to invade Ukraine. I think the leap comes here, because something being not ungodly doesn't fully equal it being godly. which is... really stupid when Christianity often positions itself like there are only things condoned by God and things that are ungodly. in reality it always comes down to Christianity being separate moral systems that effectively serve multiple separate gods.
Defending Ukraine from the Tsar was godly -> logically true if defending Ukraine from the new Russian empire is godly.
Incorporating the Soviet Union was godly / Joining the 14 nationalities of the Soviet Union into a supranational federation was godly -> this logically follows if defending Ukraine from the Tsar was godly, because this achieved defending Ukraine from the Tsar.
Attacking the Soviet Union was ungodly -> logically true if defending Ukraine from empire is godly and defending Ukraine from the Tsar was godly.
Only a surrounding federation can save Ukraine / Without the Soviet Union nobody can stop Russia from invading Ukraine / Without a larger supranational federation around Ukraine nobody can stop Russians from invading Ukraine -> this is at least arguable. some people will definitely try to argue that having another giant empire squabble with Russia over Ukraine as a buffer state somehow better respects everybody's freedom than having Ukraine be part of something bigger. I feel like the story of Poland and how much everybody hated buffer state wars in Poland counts against that. if you live in Poland it is definitely not a simple matter of having a little war over Poland and then it's over; that pronounced shitty buffer state war becomes your whole life. it doesn't make things better that Poland isn't part of the two empires fighting over it, it just takes all of Poland's local control and populational agency away. that said it would still be sensible under this framework for Ukraine to join Europe or all the Eastern European states to join into one supranational federation that fights against Russia. it's not that the Soviet Union owns Ukraine as much as Ukraine is obligated to be part of some particular bigger thing at its choice. Trotsky supporting an independent Ukraine is such a backhandedly correct thing, isn't it? the two of them both have the same problem of not wanting to be part of a bigger thing that at the moment is plural when they really ought to.
Last Dragon Chronicles [4] -> an interpretation of magic ritual in a somewhat modern setting but in a world where there are a small number of fantasy creatures.
do not read this series for Media Representation of Inuit. it's not necessarily offensive but it isn't stellar either, they're just kind of thrown into the narrative haphazardly as okay set dressing. my rule of thumb has become this: if twenty pages of a biography is blatantly more informative than a particular novel it's not good Representation. many stories I see about Native Americans / indigenous people of North America fail this test. but, for instance, some stories with Black protagonists have succeeded to where a biography and the story are about equally informative or interesting.
The Fire Within (D'Lacey ??)
Icefire (D'Lacey ??)
Fire Star (D'Lacey ??) -> not to be confused with Warriors: Into the Wild.
The Fire Eternal
Dark Fire
Fire World
The Fire Ascending
Rain and Fire
conscious objects / sentient objects -> super-case of: conscious toys. technically many superstructural fantasy worlds are made of these. narnia is a notable exception
alternate world / isekai -> super-case of: superstructural fantasy world.
Frisk
Flowey the Flower / Asriel (Undertale)
Asriel (Undertale)
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conscious toys / sentient toys -> pronounced — + "modest" proposal = Poppy Playtime. pronounced — + television = Deltarune. pronounced — + playing card / trump deck = Alice in Wonderland.
Homestuck act 5 / Hivebent
The Underground
Light World
Dark World
The Core
W.D. Gaster
Man behind the tree (Deltarune) / egg man (Deltarune)
eggs of unclear importance
The Angel (Deltarune)
Kris
Susie
Noelle
Ralsei
Shadow Crystals
Seam
Jevil
Spamton
Berdly
Kris was The Knight in Chapter 2 / Kris is The Knight
Multiple characters are The Knight
The player plays as The Angel -> what I thought to be true
Noelle is The Angel -> I think this is only true in the sense of her being the "other" Angel, but might as well record it
December Holiday is The Knight -> one line of reasoning is Mother 3 [5]
The Knight is a knife which became a Darkner -> supposedly, knives have a "long hand"
Kris gained the Red Soul after dying / Kris is dead / Kris drowned in a lake (generic)
Kris fails to play the piano because they're too nervous -> the theory that the player would be able to prompt Kris to play the piano but Kris simply doesn't want to because they can't get into the right mood. [6] very good explanation in my opinion given that Kris always does the things the player selects in some particular way, like a particular tone, not provided by the player. Kris can take out the soul and pick up their knife as a passive-aggressive gesture at The Player. do you think they couldn't play a piano?
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Deltarune is a horror scenario about a world without creativity [7] / Deltarune is a horror story about networkism -> the claim is that Darkners not being able to create fiction is a relatable narrative for art creators. interesting theory, even if I don't see much evidence right now
magic as bending the world to one's individual will / magic as the ability to inflict one's Free Will on the world regardless of the consequences -> Wings of Fire series, Darkstalker, Deltarune chapter 2 weird route. note very closely that Noelle is called a spellcaster, and her attacks to turn Darkners back into unmoving objects (!) are referred to as magic.
Dark Fountains are created when a Lightner opens a wound in the earth
Dark Fountains are created when a Lightner cracks open the limited box of reality -> combines claims: blank void outside of reality is fountain of imagination
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Ralsei's chapter 3 speech
"it might be your imagination" -> several lines implying that Berdly has passed from "reality" into imagination, or rather, from the world into Kris' mind.
living block tree / Darkerner puzzle [8] -> found in Chapter 1
gray characters / Goners
"Goners" have been deleted from Undertale's world / Goners are something more than dead
The next level below Dark Worlds is the game code -> this doesn't make any sense to me because it breaks the basic/superstructural pattern, especially when Darker-ners have been found
The level below Dark Worlds is the inanimate objects inside Dark Worlds coming to life -> evidence: tree object coming to life
Image_Friend is the darkness outside the game universe come to life -> haven't heard this from anybody but me but it seems quite possible visually. sure looks like nothingness with a face
The level above the Light World is earth / The level above the Light World is Toby Fox's world / The level above the Light World is the real world
The level above the Light World is The Angel's Heaven / The level above the Light World is technically fictional -> narratively parallel to: when you open up a Digimon show or game, the Real World and the Digital World are both technically fictional but the Real World is material and the Digital World is intangible relative to it
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SCP-682 "Hard-to-destroy reptile"
The final tragedy is something that would prompt Ralsei to be kind to someone in order to prevent it
the final tragedy / last prophecy panel
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Dark Shard -> an item dropped by the Roaring Knight that exists in the Dark World and is not the same entity as the Shadow Crystal, at least at the level of the TV and Tenna not being the same entity.
Black Knife / Black Blade
Shadow Mantle
The Roaring Knight / The Knight (Deltarune)
Roaring Knight sphere -> The Knight reverts into a little rotating sphere when defeated. is that just a cool move, or is that actually the thing that created it in some sense, like the Pippins showing up as dice in the monochrome pictures?
TV screen glitches (Chapter 3)
say it didn't snow -> appears to be tying snow to the notion of the barrier between mind and reality breaking? shows up in room of TVs in Chapter 3, Noelle says the words in weird route.
"your heartbeat becomes twisted" -> quote that appears in Roaring Knight battle.
guitar phone call -> seems to literally tell us what is happening and what will happen, only very cryptically.
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getting instructions from a phone / "Mike!" (implied to be but not proved to be connected to phone)
The Roaring Knight is Kris' repressed memory come to life -> Deltarune chapter 3. we've gotten occasional hints there is psychoanalysis in Deltarune. A) Deltarune has several surface similarities to OMORI, which was about repressed memories; toby even acknowledged this. B) Tenna's Dark World was full of memories. C) the code 1225 is included in the Dark World presumably as a memory. D) Kris opened the fountain, but the Roaring Knight was inside the fountain as what would appear to be a Darkner, and Tenna thinks "she" opened the fountain. E) Darkners are described as a very serious absence of real-world data, like a hallucination. if this is true, you'd expect that painful thoughts that torment you when you're up at night could bleed into the Dark World or even become entire Darkners.
Red Soul (Deltarune)
Dragon Ball pre-reboot era
Dragon Ball Kai episode 1
(... Dragon Ball Kai)
Madotsuki's shirt symbol shows she is empty -> pattern said to be PNG transparency or censored out shape from Madotsuki's appearance, like a missing piece; evidence through same "missing piece" showing up in Poniko's room
Dragon Blazers -> note the dimension. fictional works of fiction may be marked S, though real works of fiction are marked Z.
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Wackytown, or, every kids' movie ever (2017 tumblr video) [9]
The Angry Birds Movie
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Columbus Industries conjecture / Spain and Columbus can conquer any nation or land if they spend enough money and try enough times / if Spain and Columbus were a startup, their success is proportional to how much money or how great of assets they start with and how many things they try -> Wackytown fallacy + possible mathematical equation = Columbus Industries conjecture. the sinister framing of this is on purpose. all too many people regard businesses as inherently good as long as they don't contain "bad people", and simply ask, well how do I succeed? and here's your answer. you can succeed at anything if you burn enough money, time, linked social graphs of people, useful political connections, goodwill, and collateral damage. all you have to do is have enough money or people to try the thing enough times.
what really gets me about Existentialism is this. for normal people it's overwhelmingly intuitive to believe that Nothing should be done unless everybody considers it wonderful. they even apply this to science, arguing to varying degrees of success that animal testing is unnecessary, or more dubiously that there are some things it is inherently unethical to probe and understand with science because science is a tool of domination, and liberation can only be unscientific. but like, once everyone has been arguing this all the time. then Artists show up and are like I surely deserve to succeed just because I'm an Artist, what are ends and means, surely any means can justify my wonderful ends. welcome to Columbus Industries. if you would only burn enough money you can make the world do whatever you want it to.
Trying hard enough enough times always makes money / Individuals having skills or good ideas always leads to making money with enough time and attempts / Wackytown fallacy (specifically in reference to jobs or investments and money) -> the more people are born and compete for jobs as more unique products exist the less true this gets. MDem entry 4.4/2050 baxter
Many attempts equal success / Wackytown fallacy (children's stories) -> the more general version of the Wacktown fallacy as it actually appears in kids' movies, rather than as it appears among the directors and writers who create them. "Rudolph was useful" is the Wackytown fallacy applied to specific individuals in a "biographical" way. this is the more general notion of it applying widely across a fictional society or multiple works of fiction.
Diversity should be accepted because it's useful / Being different is okay only when you're useful / Red (Angry Birds) is useful to society because he's different in the perfect way -> the proposition people pick out and regard with much confusion when they're actually looking at the Wackytown fallacy. this is more a subjective thing than an error because you probably find this proposition some places too.
Rudolph was useful -> plot motif in Christmas movies or similar fictional works when a character supposedly finds acceptance for being different but it falls flat. "Rudolph was useful" is a local joke in the United States about misunderstandings that happened somewhere between Japanese speakers attempting to translate the Rudolph song and Japanese students trying to make sense of the translation. we think the bigger part of the misunderstanding occurred the second time around, as "役に立つ" can be a perfectly positive and complimentary thing to say in the moment, similar to "a towel comes in handy wherever you go", and not very similar to the flat and uncaring connotation of "was useful".
Uniting against the Wackytown fallacy is progress / It is progressive to unite people against the Wackytown fallacy (Liberal-republican framing) / It is the correct direction of history to unite people against the Wackytown fallacy (meta-Marxist framing) -> this is one of the very few things where I genuinely feel like Communists and anarchists can safely come together behind it even if they have totally different justifications for why it's bad. it's just so obvious this thing is bad that there's nearly no way anarchists can complicate it and screw things up.
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December Holiday / Dess Holiday
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SCP-914
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unsuitable Item label -> an Item for softly enforcing the policy that there are certain things that cannot be in outward-facing Item labels. whenever somebody might make a badly-worded Item label like "Lynching is a form of direct action", you redirect it to this so it can't practically be used to share or link Items.
Garfield
John Arbuckle (character)
Garfield (character)
Garfield minus Garfield -> Garfield + absence.
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The Secret of Platform 13 (Ibbotson 1994) -> somebody pointed out that this one came before Harry Potter and I laughed. good catch.
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Flip-flopped (Shorty McShort Shorts) -> the precursor to Growing Around. not a lot of thought was put into it, it was primarily a visual gag. really, MrEnter did a decent job taking this short specifically and making there actually be a qualitative differerence between children in charge and adults in charge. whether the difference he chose to portray actually makes any sense or not is another question.
Growing Around (unreleased series with ~1 published book)
Growing Around: Party Panic
Growing Around: The Official Comic [10] -> team member accuses Tory boss obsessed with 9/11 of catering to "audience of progressives"? what. remove this entry if the comic isn't finished on par with the book. can't check right now
In Soviet Russia, adults rule you (Growing Around) -> the claim that in the Growing Around universe, adults invented Communism and had to be defeated specifically on the logic that kids being in charge is Freedom. kids assert that them being in charge of the world is just the "tent of freedom poles" principle and adults wanting to take down their system of creativity and ideals are just tyrannical dictators. adults believe in Materialism, kids believe in Idealism, kids somehow suppress the adults with the power they mysteriously had from the beginning and gloat about how only when people believe in everyone having freedom and having freedom separately in parallel all as individuals can the world function properly, complete with a bunch of dubious or made-up information about their version of the French Revolution. it sounds like one of those very simple nonfiction picture books you find at a library, but maybe phrased a little sillier.
Growing Around is a dystopia
Growing Around will end with a defector / Growing Around will end with a single pair of adults running away and raising a kid normally -> the one really really good thing about Growing Around is that it comes across as so horrifying to adults that it prompts reviewers to imagine societal transitions. I love that. the theories of transition usually aren't high quality, but you know, in a time where Marxism has still never successfully become un-forbidden and nobody ever thinks about transitions in real-world society it still is actually making people think.
thought 2: this theory sounds almost identical to the ending of The Giver. I suppose I will label this anarchism because of that association.
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mythical ball of crowning / mythical object representing power / Dragon Balls (generic) / big Dragon Ball (generic) / chamber of sealed wishes (Wish) -> this is the use of either a particular artifact or the concept of wishes to represent abstract political power in the form of one particular person getting to specifically be the person who exerts Free Will. it's arguable Disney's Wish used this same motif in a very slightly different form.
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Marxists Internet Archive
Moscow: Progress Publishers
Beijing: Foreign Languages Press
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Kersplebedeb
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Trotsky deserting progressive cause / Trotskyist accidentally abandoning progressive cause (forsaking, deserting; motif) -> the thought experiment motif, or maybe in some texts the non-fictional motif, of Trotsky unintentionally turning his back on movements he logically should be in favor of, especially in reference to anything other than Stalin's government, although "Trotsky abandoning Soviet workers" would technically count too.
is this violet? I kind of feel like it's crimson just because there were at least one or two entire books in the Soviet Union about this. I'll let it be orange but put in the tradition as ML or MX.
If Panthers succeed Trotsky abandons them / If the Black Panthers succeeded Trotsky wouldn't like them and would insist on a different Marxist movement -> Ironblood setting related question; in this hypothetical scenario the Black Panthers do succeed, but Trotskyism is the most popular ideology in the United States, not anarchism. I am imagining this terrible anecdote where Trotsky thoughtlessly looks at the Black Panthers and is like, this is all wrong, they can't just fence off a socialism-in-one-country of Black people, we won't get to world revolution this way! and then somebody has to inform him he is basically being racist and he is like... oh. um. can there be multiple Trotskyist parties inside a world workers' state. I didn't think that far, I never thought of inventing meta-Marxism if I had any idea what that was. and the other Trotskyists make him agree to creating a better system where the United States will be divided up into five party-nations where people can join the one they wish and the states re-color themselves like in Liberalism. it's like, despite Trotsky moving to North America (and in this scenario eventually moving to New York, which only makes it funnier) he is so behind on United States issues it's always the US-born Trotskyists fixing things he probably would have screwed up.
If LGBT+ support Stalin, Trotsky abandons them / If gay people support Stalin Trotsky abandons them -> Ironblood setting related question. the first "terrible anecdote" I imagined where basically as it says on the tin, a gay man sides with the Soviet Union, he has to put up with all the backward behavior there and hardly feeling like part of society, then Trotsky outright says in his face, well if you didn't support Stalin you wouldn't have to worry about this. in my imagination Luxemburg just kind of looks at him and is like Trotsky what the pronounced fuck you can't just do that. some of these dumb ideas in my notes are early things I haven't "corrected" to be realistic, other things are intentional deviations from the timeline which would only make sense in context; Luxemburg being alive longer is one of the latter but also an artifact of me not having figured out who and where all the characters are so I toss in other characters as placeholders
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Trotsky deserting East Germany / Trotskyist deserting East Germany -> many of these refer to Trotskyists in general, only a few like the very specific Black Panther Party scenario are truly aimed at Trotsky. I have a habit of humorously calling all Trotskyists "Trotsky" but it most of the time meaning any Trotskyist theorist such as Ted Grant, James P. Cannon, etc. I hope that's clear.
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world where the pronounced International is finished / timeline where the pronounced International is finished -> the motif of a hypothetical or fictional scenario where the goal of the First or Third International is actually achieved and every country transitions out of capitalism into something else which is at least not worse. field: meta-transitional realism
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Ironblood series -> basically just a reserved item
motifs: Q70,90 timeline where the International is finished, etc.
Aurora system / IronShard -> reserved, but closer to being real
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Helix Chamber
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Vegeta IV is worse than Vegeta III
Vegeta III is worse than Vegeta IV -> this is the one I think was true, although both become irrelevant when the series reboots into Super
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Android 33
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That time I got reincarnated as Yamcha
Future Trunks timeline
Trunks (Dragon Ball)
Trunks' sword -> is it different from Z sword?
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Trotskyism is possible in Dragon Ball -> MDem 5.1. still amusing, still very thought-provoking.
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15-generations-prior god-of-worlds
Z sword (Dragon Ball)
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Super Saiyan 4 (GT)
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Android 17 (GT)
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Wings of Fire prequels
empire plant -> I forget its name but that's what it is
the king I can't remember
Freedom
castle lord guy
Sky the SkyWing
Wren -> until I looked it up I really couldn't remember her name and thought she was named after a plant like several other characters in that book
Darkstalker -> there's a lot to say about Darkstalker and narrative parallels. the funniest one is his parallel to Death Note. the most unexpected one is his parallel to the description of LV in Undertale.
Clearsight
Book of Clearsight
Dragonslayer
Darkstalker
Wings of Fire series
Warriors series
Guardians of Ga'Hoole series
One for Sorrow, Two for Joy
Kimba the White Lion / Jungle Emperor Leo -> move? not sure how many chapters there are
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there is only power and those who seek it -> appears in: Harry Potter
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the Raskolnikov -> I've seen three books with a Raskolnikov in them. Crime and Punishment itself. Death Note. The 13th Tribe, which is supposedly about a whole tiny group of Raskolnikovs.
Epic of Gilgamesh
Crime and Punishment -> the most notable thing about this book to me is that it was loosely adapted to create Death Note.
Death Note
Death Note (artifact)
animus scroll (Wings of Fire)
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mistaken quest to steal immortality from the gods
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Undertale
Deltarune
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Kolchak and Fennekin -> one of those motifs I didn't actually know the definition of at the moment I thought of the phrase and just put down because it was funny. um. this is the motif of Pokémon stories referencing the history of workers' states. something that I would never expect to happen in official Pokémon media but you know, motifs can be whatever even if they're entirely hypothetical. as long as in reference to works and motifs that already exist you can fully imagine what they'd look like if they did exist.
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SCP-6662 [11] -> lost cereal mascot seeking "own destination"
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Mx. Satan / Mr. Satan (motif) / White Witch (motif) -> when a character in a story is asserted to be a regular character within a world and not necessarily supernatural in the sense of having anything to do with gods, even the fictional gods of that secular fantasy narrative etc, but is really really clearly paralleling a Satan/antichrist narrative as you would see in the Christian bible. Mr. Satan - trope namer; ice queen (Narnia). really can be any gender.
The enemy of one entity is the enemy of all humankind / The world only has one opposer / Satan fallacy -> fallacy best known in the Christian Bible, but repeated in many fantasy books. this statement fails the Trotsky model hard. if you think this statement could ever be true, then it could hypothetically be true that the enemy of Stalin's government is the enemy of all humankind. you've gotta put Trotsky to death to save Soviet civilization. and that's a pretty big contradiction to have in your philosophy for all First World countries. Trotsky is sacred. but if there's any such thing as Bible-style Good and Evil, he's done. which thing is correct? you can't change the Soviet Union to Liberalism to make the problem easier, you have to answer the moral conundrum exactly as it is.
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Would a Russia made of reactionaries deserve sovereignty? (composed of reactionaries; consisting only or solely of conservative bigots) / If every Russian is reactionary, do they deserve a government? / If every Russian was a reactionary, would it be acceptable for people in another country to assist in a plan to gut Russia of its government, install leaders chosen to interface well with the United States or Europe, and turn it into a client state? (Russia, China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Iran, etc; insert Third World nationality which has been "assigned conservative at birth"; insert country which has literally undergone this) -> this is a question to catch anarchist and center-Liberal Idealists that think they're "postcolonial" but by any reasonable Materialist definition are passively committing exocolonialism and are actually colonial. only if you say "no" can you genuinely have a postcolonial theory. if you say "yes", you can be an anarchist, Trotskyist, or Existentialist, but you are an imperialist. it is true that anyone who answers "no" to this question has a new contradiction to answer in what it's acceptable to do to a misbehaving country other than war or client state, but this is still a critical question that separates Marxism from Liberal-republicanism.
Nazi Germany is a very special edge case which I will arbitrarily say is not part of this question because it's so difficult; it's a little hard to say what other than war is even possible there. I think it's important to have an answer so people don't get cornered back into this Item, but I think it belongs in its own question or proposition.
Would you kill a Russian in order to vote? / Would you kill a Russian to receive your voter card? -> you live in an alternate world where every individual in the United States is entitled to a voting license the day they kill a Russian. policies are mostly the same. voting brings anti-discrimination laws, healthcare programs, whatever. but you have to kill someone in Eurasia to get to vote, or to get to tell anyone else to vote. want people to vote for gun control? every one of them has to fly over and shoot a Russian, and then you can have it. the central question of this thought experiment is this: how much is voting worth? what lengths is it worth going to just to preserve voting and the "normal" process of getting people to vote? would people chant "vote Democrat" as loudly if every one of them was required to kill a Russian? what about if voting Democrat really does take a little power away from Tories to create more structural racism and kill Black people? should everyone go kill a Russian just to save Black people from fascism? or is preserving the life of Russians more important than that aim? the only thing about this metaphor that's incoherent to me is how you prove anyone actually killed anyone. uh. maybe there are a limited number of voter licenses, and you'd just take one from Russia and hold it up. or maybe everyone has an ID card which clearly has a flag on it and you'd take that. there may or may not be a system where any country can kill people to issue voter licenses but just as in real life most countries are too afraid to attack the United States. also you equally get a point if you kill a United States Communist and it can be proven in court, even though they deliberately don't have different id card flags. in this world people go to court to prove they have done approved heinous things as well as to prove they're innocent.
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PragerU / Prager University
Fox News
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A bunch of people passing a law can stop all bad guys from ever being bad guys -> from a video that will not be named to preserve the integrity of the YouTube community guidelines reporting system. I can't believe people actually think this way about AI in an age of federal war against immigrants. this kind of thinking didn't even successfully knock Trump out of office for committing crimes, he just got impeached and nothing happened. I have started reporting videos like this for White supremacy. they refuse to acknowledge the possibility that billionaires will openly attack the population as material people just because the population tries to pass a law against them they sufficiently don't like or will dismantle components of government anti-Third-World style, they get reported. I don't know if my reports will do anything, but I can try.
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portraying negative phenomenon without recommending it / ironic phenomenon
unironic misogyny
ironic misogyny -> see: Dragon Ball
heteronormativity
ironic heteronormativity -> see: Amy Rose, DHMIS "Malcom"
normalcy of relationships proved by Lived Experiences / gay relationships are normal
normalcy of gender proved by Lived Experiences / transgender identity is normal
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Journey to the West
golden light
fictional religious cosmology -> Girl from the other side; Warriors / StarClan
evil god takes form as the earth -> Tiamat; hinduism?
cosmic graph struggle
Yamcha (Dragon Ball)
understanding the universe
karma (spatial rank)
bailing someone out of system
bailing someone out of supernatural system
bailing someone out of karma
Saiyans losing tails -> lore significance specifically
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Sonic the Hedgehog
Tails
Knuckles
Amy Rose -> what is misogyny?
(sonic character)
(sonic character)
Shadow the Hedgehog
[S] MarioCube / MarioCube theory
Black Arms
GUN -> planetary police, planetary army
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Sonic × Shadow / Sonadow -> Group Subject containing: Sonic, Shadow
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VIZ media
Bird Studio
Sega
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Funtime Shenron -> "eternal dragon" or other character/device that claims to grant you a wish but actually just eats you or takes your dead body. perfectly okay to give this a different primary label, I just think "Funtime Shenlong" is a really funny image
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Steel Wool games
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Children are composed almost entirely of memories / Children are a shard off their parents' memories / Children are a fork off their parents' inner timeline of Lived Experiences -> Lacanianism; Charlie (Fourth Closet); Girl from the other side
Girl From the Other Side (all media) / Other Side / Girl from the Outside (typo) / The Outsiders (typo)
(... Girl From the Other Side)
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Ultra Q (1966)
Ultraman (1966)
Ultraseven (1967)
The Return of Ultraman (1971) / Ultraman Jack (show)
Ultraman Ace (1972)
Ultraman Taro (1973)
The☆Ultraman (1979) / Ultraman Joneus (show)
Ultraman 80 (1980)
Ultraman Zearth (1996)
Ultraman Leo (1973) -> features signifier: Leon Trotsky counterpart
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Ultraman Geed (2017) -> this one was so questionable, it was like, nazi-framed Ultraman show
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Slay the Princess
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Pokémon (metaseries)
virtual pet form / virtual pet stage / evolution stage / Pokémon kind / Pokédex kind
virtual pet form tier / evolution stage
virtual pet species / virtual pet strain / virtual pet form chart (internal mechanic)
reused virtual pet form / virtual pet form switching from one series of forms to another / track switch / trackswitch
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Digimon (metaseries)
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neopets
neopet -> toon-style being, LCD-style being, Subject-style being; medium: virtual pet; only really here to demonstrate categories
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The Mimic was hiding in every game as Jackie
The Mimic was hiding inside Shadow Freddy
MCI victim names / Gabriel (??) / Jeremy (??) / Fritz (??) / Susie (??) / Susie (Return to the Pit)
Golden Freddy contains "The one you should not have killed"
Golden Freddy DOES NOT contain "The one you should not have killed"
Michael became Old Man Consequences
Henry became Old Man Consequences
Ralph became Old Man Consequences -> reliving old traumas in cyclic timeline (FNaF)
Andrew, Jake, and Stitchwraith are in games / StitchlineGames
Tales from the Pizzaplex takes place in games setting / TalesGames
Michael Afton was protagonist of FNaF 1-4 / The Box contains Foxy mask
Chica was created during Fredbear era
Toy animatronics originated from Fall Fest / Toy animatronic characters first shown at carnival
Mangle came from carnival ride / Mangle is not Funtime Foxy / Mangle first shown at Fall Fest
The Mimic copied William Afton to create Glitchtrap
Every instance of The Mimic is networked together
Carnie was built out of pronounced LEFTE
Cassidy died in springlock incident -> red lakes and drowning imagery
Fazbear Enterprises is responsible for bringing back Fall Fest
Tiger Rock plush is a counterpart to the books
Desk guy counts as Henry because he is based on Scott / Scott is desk guy is Henry -> FNaF World
pronounced LEFTE contains five dead kids / LefteDCI / LeftyDCI -> 1 2
Circus Baby is not William's creation but Henry's revenge on William -> Circus Baby - based on - Charlie; "the baby is not mine"
There are actually multiple William Aftons from different timelines
Candy Cadet is contrasting Circus Baby's plan with Henry's plan / Candy Cadet is contrasting Sister Location's worst ending with Pizza Simulator's best ending
Helpy is a Funtime because the Pizza Place is Henry's version of the Funtimes intended to catch Funtimes
William based the Funtime animatronics on pronounced LEFTE -> I think this is slightly "anachronistic" because Baby existed at the time of the fire, but it's definitely fun, and it creates a nice transition between FNaF 6 and The Fourth Closet
Henry and William are in an arms race / Whenever Henry builds something William appropriates it for evil / When William builds something Henry appropriates it for good
Michael is "The one you should not have killed" and UCN was Michael's revenge -> this implies that "The vengeful spirit" is not "The one you should not have killed" because the ghost voice and Michael would be two different characters - both tormenting William.
William Afton deliberately made the Funtimes able to feel pain in order to harvest Agony -> strangely enough, actually becomes more plausible on Jackie's timeline where the Mimics seem to have pre-dated Freddy Fazbear
Dave Afton longed for Fredbear to protect him and possession granted him his wish -> [12]
Fazbear Frights is an in-universe series created by Fazbear Entertainment -> different from the concept of Security Breach timeline vs classic timeline; some argue Frights is too insulting to Fazbear Entertainment - [13]
The mound in Midnight Motorist contains a hidden Twisted One waiting to strike -> man I love the creativity. I don't think there is any serious Silver Eyes in the games before Security Breach but the image is hilarious
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forest beings turning into trees -> QID references: SCP.
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Lenin counterpart -> also in: Ultraman Leo
Leon Trotsky counterpart / Emmanuel Goldstein / Snowball -> also in: Ultraman Leo
Rosa Luxemburg counterpart
Joseph Stalin counterpart / Napoleon (pig)
Pigs (Animal Farm)
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Pyrrhia
dragon tribe
dragon (Wings of Fire)
MudWing
SeaWing
RainWing
NightWing
SandWing
moon-touched dragon
Icewing
SkyWing
animus magic
dragon created through animus magic -> there are about three in the series: Boa, fake Clearsight, Peacemaker. notably, Darkstalker is responsible for two of them.
SilkWing
Hivewing
LeafWing
flamesilk dragon
Boa / Jerboa (construct)
hybrid dragon
animus dragon
firescales
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Dragon Ball (metaseries)
Dragon Ball (first era)
Dragon Ball (Z era)
Dragon Ball Super (era)
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Dragon Ball prequels (era)
Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)
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Sonic the Hedgehog (metaseries)
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"I am all of me" (song)
"This is who I am" (song)
Shadow the Hedgehog (2005)
"Live and Learn" (song)