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== | == Internal motifs == | ||
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</li><li class="field_nations" value="3430" data-dimension="S">anarcho-Toryism | |||
</ | </li><li class="field_nations" value="3431" data-dimension="S">you are educated stupid and evil (Gene Ray) | ||
</li></ol> | |||
== Wavebuilder combinations == | == Wavebuilder combinations == | ||
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== [[Ontology:TimeCube|Prototype]] notes == | == [[Ontology:TimeCube|Prototype]] notes == | ||
* the village was destroyed — it's supposed to be that a child has parents and the parents have a tribe of parents, but The Government removes children and puts them in the state school system | === lecture === | ||
* you can't create a child from a single seed, the child needs two parents | |||
* every day happens four times across four different sides of the world <ref name="gt"/> | |||
** this is just time zones, isn't it? it's like he's trying to discover special relativity and say that time zones are wrong because time doesn't all go at the same speed across the universe. which would be true if he was Einstein and knew how any of it actually worked. | |||
** student didn't know about relativity and gave invalid objection to cubic time based on perfectly linear time. Henri Bergson fallacy. | |||
* there's an African world in Africa, there's an Indian world in India, they are each having a different day at the same time <ref name="gt"/> | |||
* the earth is not a single entity, it has two opposites inside it that cancel out <ref name="gt"/> | |||
** this is in Mao's work and I can't stop thinking about that | |||
* each of the three dimensions is actually two dimensions — so, the positive and negative sides of the dimensional axis?? I can't think of what this is otherwise <ref name="gt"/> | |||
* I'm not an atheist, that's a category invented by Christians, there is no entity <ref name="gt"/> | |||
* animals exist by the cubic principle, they have no god <ref name="gt"/> | |||
* your father was a fish, by which I mean a sperm fish that has to meet something / the game of marbles! <ref name="gt"/> | |||
* the village was destroyed — it's supposed to be that a child has parents and the parents have a tribe of parents, but The Government removes children and puts them in the state school system <ref name="gt"/> | |||
* you can't create a child from a single seed, the child needs two parents <ref name="gt"/> | |||
* humans have overpopulated because unlike lemmings (sic) they haven't developed population control and stayed in their corner of the world <ref name="gt"/> | |||
** this is the kind of thing that made me want to label this <code>A</code>. anarchists keep all but saying this and stopping themselves at the last minute | |||
* corporations patented indigenous seed corn and barred them from planting it, we are destroying everything <ref name="gt"/> | |||
** one of the most legitimate complaints in this entire lecture, to be fair | |||
=== readings === | |||
* he really really held back on the racism and tried to be more approachable in the public lecture. he's just like Dugin. they always do this. | |||
* God is a queer bastard, he can't possibly create a baby as an individual entity typically depicted as a man <ref name="mrg2"/> | |||
* interracial marriage destroys the races! <ref name="mrg"/> | |||
** see, this doesn't make any sense with the rest of what he says. if we all come from two things and there is no entity, interracial marriage should be good because it undermines imperialism happening to the same population. if you just mix all the racial subpopulations of everywhere together but keep national populations from expanding because they really respect other nationalities so much they're going to limit their population growth it should be consistent with what he says. I feel like this guy would not even be ranting if he grew up in China. if what he said was actually consistent and not hiding anything, that is. why he thinks racism solves anything confuses me. | |||
* humans are using one day out of four days available, they are interdependent <ref name="mrg2"/> | |||
** I thought I understood this and had it figured out as one big theory of segregation, but then he says "interdependent"? what is he even saying now. is this Warrior cats. is he arguing that the strict separation of four things is bound together by StarClan? what am I even looking at | |||
** if that's what it is then there would be some argument that the "the four nations lived in harmony until the Fire Nation attacked" trope is secretly racist. which, honestly, would make some amount of sense. I have never understood that way of thinking, and to think that Deleuze and Guattari type stuff doesn't stray from the principles of Liberal capitalism because it hasn't strayed from the racism that's always been there would definitely explain some things. | |||
* I am as much an economic slave as Black people <ref name="mrg2"/> | |||
** r/accidentallycommunist | |||
* he really doesn't like Obama. the reasons are already on here... some of this {{censor|shit}} is so bad my brain is just tuning it out before I can analyze it | |||
* cyclops mentality, a same-sex queer transformation! <ref name="mrg2"/> | |||
** I want to say that he hates Christianity because it is too integrationist and that's a sacrilege to him. that has to be what all the "God is a queer bastard" stuff is about, it's about putting four things together into one improperly and he thinks that gay marriage is also dissolving the barriers between two or four things that there are supposed to be making the two or four things not exist. at least he's funnier than Dugin, who was just pain | |||
* the purpose of education is to destroy independent thought <ref name="mrg2"/> | |||
** well. kind of, though not entirely. he has the wrong reasons that would be true. | |||
* god allows babies to die and doesn't make any sense — accurate? <ref name="mrg2"/> | |||
* you betray the concept of parents when you believe in Christian monotheism <ref name="mrg2"/> | |||
** this one confused me so much at first until he finally mentioned "God" and I was like... oh. | |||
* Christianity and Judaism are bad because all men come from boys that grow into men but God doesn't, unlike a real being <ref name="mrg2"/> | |||
* Christianity is causing Middle East wars, something something oil barons, because the government doesn't understand the problems are back home <ref name="mrg2"/> | |||
** again, kind of true, but for the wrong reasons. | |||
== Background == | == Background == | ||
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=== Color swatch === | === Color swatch === | ||
This Item | This Item uses the {{TTS|html=code|tts=Akwayr|Aqr|title=Aquar(ius) - neo-paganism}} code (neo-paganism) because the theory advocates an inseparable multiplicity of gods which is said to conflict with Christianity. Initially it seemed like the {{TTS|html=code|A|title=anarchism}} code might be appropriate due to the vague themes of degrowth and returning to "small and local", but there are a few reasons to not consider this theory "anarchist", including its periodic references to segregation as a priority that is apparently more important than using the government of populations to prevent them from colliding and destroying each other. This was reason enough to give the theory the {{TTS|html=code|tts=P.T.|PT|title=Toryism}} color. There certainly exist some number of Tory types who are passively racist and don't desire any active aggression against other groups of people, yet are still racist. The core of this theory, or one of its "facets" so to speak, would seem to be the specific kind of Tory "anarchism" that tries very hard to use racism to abolish government, squash infinite growth, halt "corporatism", and promote peace, the only caveat being strict segregation of all populations to stop all globalization that has ever happened. | ||
The alternate label uses the {{TTS|html=code|tts=Ziv|Zv|title="Zinovievism"}} swatch not in reference to any literal form of Trotskyism, but in reference to the figurative concept of "[[E:science Trotskyites|science Trotskyites]]" — fringe-science resistances that pop up against scientific "establishments" and start insisting the only reason they are not allowed into science or education has to do with injustice and prejudice against particular ideological factions and is not because of any of the actual content or accuracy of what they say. | |||
== References == | |||
<references> | |||
<ref name="gt"><cite class="article">Time Cube lecture at Georgia Tech - April 2005</cite>. Ray, G. (April 2005 / {{TTS|html=abbr|tts=retrieved|ret.}} 8 September 2025). channel {{TTS|tts=badical-industries|@badicalindustries}}; {{YouTube|uMZdNyRIATo|YouTube}}.</ref> | |||
<ref name="mrg"><cite class="article">Nature's harmonic simultaneous 4-day time cube</cite>. Ray, G., {{TTS|tts=user mike-the-rat-guy|@Miketheratguy}} (narrator). (8 December 2004 / 12 September 2022). [https://web.archive.org/web/20041128121906/http://timecube.com/ timecube.com]; [https://web.archive.org/web/20041208022223/http://crackpot.org/~alex/timecube.html crackpot.org]; {{YouTube|0Ek2zQ0QYD0|YouTube}}.</ref> | |||
<ref name="mrg2"><cite class="article">Time Cube - The Audio Book <b class="caps">Revised & Expanded Edition</b></cite>. Ray, G., channel "The Opponent" (narrator). (19 September 2002 / {{TTS|html=abbr|tts=retrieved|ret.}} 8 September 2025). [https://web.archive.org/web/20021130180817/http://www.timecube.com/ timecube.com]; [http://web.archive.org/web/20021220092124/http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/org/phoenix/2002/2002-09-19/living/12178.php swarthmore.edu]; {{YouTube|0TdbAP0Ughc|YouTube}}.</ref> | |||
</references> | |||
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en-GB spellings: Zv colour | en-GB spellings: Zv colour PT colour | ||
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Latest revision as of 13:23, 9 September 2025
- pronounced S–618 pronounced [Aqr] [S] time cube theory 11 -1 -
Core characteristics[edit]
- pronounced [P] label [string] (L)
- pronounced S–618 pronounced [Aqr] [S] time cube theory 11 -1 -
- pronounced S–618 pronounced [Zv] [S] time cube theory 11 -1 -
- E:TimeCube
- pronounced [P] alias (en) [string]
- --
- QID references [Item] 11 -1 -
- --
- field, scope, or group [Item]
- case of [Item]
- super-case of [Item]
- --
- appears in work [Item]
- --
Internal motifs[edit]
- anarcho-Toryism
- you are educated stupid and evil (Gene Ray)
Wavebuilder combinations[edit]
- pronounced [P] pronounced Wavebuilder: forms result [Item]
- --
- along with [Item]
- --
Wavebuilder characterizations[edit]
- pronounced Wavebuilder: route [Item]
- --
- along with [Item]
- --
Prototype notes[edit]
lecture[edit]
- every day happens four times across four different sides of the world [1]
- this is just time zones, isn't it? it's like he's trying to discover special relativity and say that time zones are wrong because time doesn't all go at the same speed across the universe. which would be true if he was Einstein and knew how any of it actually worked.
- student didn't know about relativity and gave invalid objection to cubic time based on perfectly linear time. Henri Bergson fallacy.
- there's an African world in Africa, there's an Indian world in India, they are each having a different day at the same time [1]
- the earth is not a single entity, it has two opposites inside it that cancel out [1]
- this is in Mao's work and I can't stop thinking about that
- each of the three dimensions is actually two dimensions — so, the positive and negative sides of the dimensional axis?? I can't think of what this is otherwise [1]
- I'm not an atheist, that's a category invented by Christians, there is no entity [1]
- animals exist by the cubic principle, they have no god [1]
- your father was a fish, by which I mean a sperm fish that has to meet something / the game of marbles! [1]
- the village was destroyed — it's supposed to be that a child has parents and the parents have a tribe of parents, but The Government removes children and puts them in the state school system [1]
- you can't create a child from a single seed, the child needs two parents [1]
- humans have overpopulated because unlike lemmings (sic) they haven't developed population control and stayed in their corner of the world [1]
- this is the kind of thing that made me want to label this
A
. anarchists keep all but saying this and stopping themselves at the last minute
- this is the kind of thing that made me want to label this
- corporations patented indigenous seed corn and barred them from planting it, we are destroying everything [1]
- one of the most legitimate complaints in this entire lecture, to be fair
readings[edit]
- he really really held back on the racism and tried to be more approachable in the public lecture. he's just like Dugin. they always do this.
- God is a queer bastard, he can't possibly create a baby as an individual entity typically depicted as a man [2]
- interracial marriage destroys the races! [3]
- see, this doesn't make any sense with the rest of what he says. if we all come from two things and there is no entity, interracial marriage should be good because it undermines imperialism happening to the same population. if you just mix all the racial subpopulations of everywhere together but keep national populations from expanding because they really respect other nationalities so much they're going to limit their population growth it should be consistent with what he says. I feel like this guy would not even be ranting if he grew up in China. if what he said was actually consistent and not hiding anything, that is. why he thinks racism solves anything confuses me.
- humans are using one day out of four days available, they are interdependent [2]
- I thought I understood this and had it figured out as one big theory of segregation, but then he says "interdependent"? what is he even saying now. is this Warrior cats. is he arguing that the strict separation of four things is bound together by StarClan? what am I even looking at
- if that's what it is then there would be some argument that the "the four nations lived in harmony until the Fire Nation attacked" trope is secretly racist. which, honestly, would make some amount of sense. I have never understood that way of thinking, and to think that Deleuze and Guattari type stuff doesn't stray from the principles of Liberal capitalism because it hasn't strayed from the racism that's always been there would definitely explain some things.
- I am as much an economic slave as Black people [2]
- r/accidentallycommunist
- he really doesn't like Obama. the reasons are already on here... some of this
pronounced shitis so bad my brain is just tuning it out before I can analyze it - cyclops mentality, a same-sex queer transformation! [2]
- I want to say that he hates Christianity because it is too integrationist and that's a sacrilege to him. that has to be what all the "God is a queer bastard" stuff is about, it's about putting four things together into one improperly and he thinks that gay marriage is also dissolving the barriers between two or four things that there are supposed to be making the two or four things not exist. at least he's funnier than Dugin, who was just pain
- the purpose of education is to destroy independent thought [2]
- well. kind of, though not entirely. he has the wrong reasons that would be true.
- god allows babies to die and doesn't make any sense — accurate? [2]
- you betray the concept of parents when you believe in Christian monotheism [2]
- this one confused me so much at first until he finally mentioned "God" and I was like... oh.
- Christianity and Judaism are bad because all men come from boys that grow into men but God doesn't, unlike a real being [2]
- Christianity is causing Middle East wars, something something oil barons, because the government doesn't understand the problems are back home [2]
- again, kind of true, but for the wrong reasons.
Background[edit]
Usage notes[edit]
Color swatch[edit]
This Item uses the pronounced Aqr
code (neo-paganism) because the theory advocates an inseparable multiplicity of gods which is said to conflict with Christianity. Initially it seemed like the pronounced A
code might be appropriate due to the vague themes of degrowth and returning to "small and local", but there are a few reasons to not consider this theory "anarchist", including its periodic references to segregation as a priority that is apparently more important than using the government of populations to prevent them from colliding and destroying each other. This was reason enough to give the theory the pronounced PT
color. There certainly exist some number of Tory types who are passively racist and don't desire any active aggression against other groups of people, yet are still racist. The core of this theory, or one of its "facets" so to speak, would seem to be the specific kind of Tory "anarchism" that tries very hard to use racism to abolish government, squash infinite growth, halt "corporatism", and promote peace, the only caveat being strict segregation of all populations to stop all globalization that has ever happened.
The alternate label uses the pronounced Zv
swatch not in reference to any literal form of Trotskyism, but in reference to the figurative concept of "science Trotskyites" — fringe-science resistances that pop up against scientific "establishments" and start insisting the only reason they are not allowed into science or education has to do with injustice and prejudice against particular ideological factions and is not because of any of the actual content or accuracy of what they say.
References[edit]
- ↑ 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 Time Cube lecture at Georgia Tech - April 2005. Ray, G. (April 2005 / pronounced ret. 8 September 2025). channel pronounced @badicalindustries; YouTube.
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 Time Cube - The Audio Book Revised & Expanded Edition. Ray, G., channel "The Opponent" (narrator). (19 September 2002 / pronounced ret. 8 September 2025). timecube.com; swarthmore.edu; YouTube.
- ↑ Nature's harmonic simultaneous 4-day time cube. Ray, G., pronounced @Miketheratguy (narrator). (8 December 2004 / 12 September 2022). timecube.com; crackpot.org; YouTube.