Ontology:P133: Difference between revisions

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crossed over with [Item]

Core characteristics[edit]

item type: P
pronounced [P] label [string] (L): crossed over with [Item]
pronounced [P] alias (en) [string]: work has crossed over with
shares thematic block [Item] (BB) 1-1-1: --
field, scope, or group [Item]: fictional works (proposed; Fy) 1-1-1; literary criticism (proposed; Fy) 1-1-1; causality in fiction (proposed; Fy) 1-1-1
Property data type: item; data Entity 1-1-1

Examples[edit]

Nobunaga's Ambition[edit]

crossed over with [Item]: Pokémon

Usage notes[edit]

Fictional series sometimes come together to produce crossovers in which characters or elements from both works appear. Periodically, some sort of internet blogger creating text posts or videos will see one of these crossovers and come up with a wild theory that the characters in both works never were separate and always were connected. This Property is both a tribute to and a wall against these theories. Any crossovers which have happened between two works can be added in here, or in some cases, any highly important cameo or reference from one work to another. These crossovers should not necessarily be taken seriously. You should have very good evidence before transferring a crossover work to the "continuous with" Property. Of course, the "not continuous with" Property has far lower standards by definition, and any number of things can be put in there.

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 {{HueClaim |P=item type| {{Template:P}} }}
 {{HueRoster|EP=PPPA/L|lang=en| {{E:P133}} }}
-{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA|lang=en| -- }}
+{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA|lang=en| work has crossed over with }}
 {{HueRoster|EP=P42/BB| -- }}
-{{HueRoster|EP=P34| {{E:Q618/Fy|literary criticism}} }}
+{{HueRoster|EP=P34| {{E:Q618/Fy|fictional works}} | {{E:Q618/Fy|literary criticism}} | {{E:Q618/Fy|causality in fiction}} [[Category:Canonicity ontology]] }}
 {{HueRoster|P=Property data type| item [[Category:Properties accepting an Item value]] | {{E:Q97}} }}  <!-- en: data Entity -->
 </dl>
 == Examples ==
-<!--
-=== Wackytown fallacy - Q68,90 ===
-<dl class="wikitable hue">{{HueRoster|EP=P92| {{E:Q618/ES|Careerist layer}} | {{E:Q618/ES|bourgeoisie}} }}</dl>
+=== {{book|Nobunaga's Ambition}} ===
--->
-== [[User:Reversedragon/FirstNineThousand|Prototype]] notes ==
+<dl class="wikitable hue">{{HueRoster|EP=P133| {{book|Pokémon}} }}</dl>
-<ol class="hue clean">
+== Usage notes ==
-</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="132">not continuous with  ->  example: mainstream Marxism-Leninism - not continuous with - Trotskyism; Dragon Ball GT - not continuous with - Dragon Ball Super; New Testament - not continuous with - Quran
-</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="133">continuous with / work is continuous with / series continuous with / philosophical tradition continuous with  ->  serious canonicity relationship between two individual works or a work and containing series. does not immediately imply reverse relationship; if fan works are represented in Items, this should be used asymmetrically on the fan creation only. open question: should this be used for non-fiction works? I feel like the answer is yes precisely when they follow from an existing theoretical work in exactly the same way a fictional derivative work does, presuming previous works to be part of them. this allows easily coding the otherwise complex relationship that the collected works of Lenin are "canon" to Trotskyism without the faction of people immediately connected to Lenin actually approving of that. however this should not be used across the boundary between fiction and non-fiction <em>unless</em> it is meant to imply that the fictional work takes place inside a version of real-world history. sometimes this is the case. you can legitimately put some very funny inferences on the Fantastic Beasts entry although these would not belong directly on main-series Harry Potter entries.
-</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="134">crossed over with / work has crossed over with  ->  to both discourage and encourage that ridiculous form of fan theory creation where people take crossovers seriously for no particular reason. don't conflate this with "work is continuous with". <em>do</em> put all the sillier connections in here.
-</li></ol>
-== Usage notes ==
+Fictional series sometimes come together to produce crossovers in which characters or elements from both works appear. Periodically, some sort of internet blogger creating text posts or videos will see one of these crossovers and come up with a wild theory that the characters in both works never were separate and always were connected. This Property is both a tribute to and a wall against these theories. Any crossovers which have happened between two works can be added in here, or in some cases, any highly important cameo or reference from one work to another. These crossovers should not necessarily be taken seriously. You should have very good evidence before transferring a crossover work to the "continuous with" Property. Of course, the "not continuous with" Property has far lower standards by definition, and any number of things can be put in there.
 [[Category:Hue-format fake Properties]]