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== Core characteristics == | == Core characteristics == | ||
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{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA/L|lang=en| {{E: | {{HueRoster|EP=PPPA/L|lang=en| {{E:Q21,10}} | [ES] group embodied cognition | [[E:shovel dream]] | [[E:ShovelDream]] }} | ||
{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA|lang=en| object or formation ideology | ideology or consciousness associated with a specific repeatable kind of population which is countable and separable and has a particular kind of internal structure | ideology or consciousness associated with a particular kind of materially-definable Social-Philosophical System }} | {{HueRoster|EP=PPPA|lang=en| object or formation ideology | ideology or consciousness associated with a specific repeatable kind of population which is countable and separable and has a particular kind of internal structure | ideology or consciousness associated with a particular kind of materially-definable Social-Philosophical System | embodied cognition (model of objects that perform cognition doing it through studying the relationship of their physical object toward the world, here also applied to groups of people instead of just individuals) }} | ||
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{{HueRoster|EP=P34| {{E:Q92}} | existential materialism [[Category:Existential materialism ontology]] }} <!-- en: field --> | {{HueRoster|EP=P34| {{E:Q92}} | existential materialism [[Category:Existential materialism ontology]] }} <!-- en: field --> | ||
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== Usage notes == | == Usage notes == | ||
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Latest revision as of 10:37, 2 October 2025
- pronounced 617. (S2)pronounced (S2): shovel dream (meta-Marxism) 1-1-1
Core characteristics[edit]
- pronounced P: label [string] (L)
- pronounced 617. (S2)pronounced (S2): shovel dream (meta-Marxism) 1-1-1
- [ES] group embodied cognition
- E:shovel dream
- E:ShovelDream
- pronounced P: alias (en) [string]
- object or formation ideology
- ideology or consciousness associated with a specific repeatable kind of population which is countable and separable and has a particular kind of internal structure
- ideology or consciousness associated with a particular kind of materially-definable Social-Philosophical System
- embodied cognition (model of objects that perform cognition doing it through studying the relationship of their physical object toward the world, here also applied to groups of people instead of just individuals)
- QID references [Item] 1-1-1
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- field, scope, or group [Item]
- pronounced 92. (Z) pronounced (MX) (Z): meta-Marxism 1-1-1
- existential materialism
- sub-case of [Item]
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- case of [Item]
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Components[edit]
- consists of components [Item]
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Wavebuilder combinations[edit]
- pronounced P: pronounced Wave-builder: forms result [Item]
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- along with [Item]
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Wavebuilder characterizations[edit]
- pronounced Wave-builder: route [Item]
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- along with [Item]
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Prototype notes[edit]
- ... Hyper-Materialist concept. the motif of a particular kind of object having a particular kind of model of the world and ideology because it is a particular kind of object. almost always the object is a countable, separable population of people, but it's funny to figuratively refer to other kinds of objects to get across a concept that somehow absolutely nobody seems to understand. Hyper-Materialism is when all similar shovels have a similar shovel dream, and all similar rakes have a similar rake dream. a collections of rakes may have its own unique collection-of-rakes dream, but in principle it can be calculated by modeling the interaction of the individual rake dreams. individual people, not being shovels or rakes, can change their shovel dream at will, but changing the shovel dream of one individual may not have much effect on a large group. Marcuse thinks it's as simple as changing all the individuals one by one but that doesn't necessarily go fast enough. you have to understand the existing layout of various kinds of material objects producing shovel dreams and think about what changes in the layout of shovels could produce the right ones faster. the terrible thing is there are no shortcuts here. you can't just go "here are the bourgeoisie, here are the proletariat, they only need to become aware of the possibly wrong model in this text". with the United States objectively not having the class structure described in Leninist texts, organizers really do need to understand the basic concept of shovel dreams and how to identify them and categorize them in the field.