Category:Undertale-Deltarune ontology
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Proposed Items (Deltarune)[edit]
- did not create the clock puzzle
- Deltarune's secret death animation actually means that making attacks red makes them more powerful
- The shadow mantle is a bulletproof vest / Fistful of Dollars theory -> the claim that the Shadow Mantle is a shield used for blocking projectiles in Deltarune's green Soul mode, but the discarded boss doesn't want the player finding it. edit: because it wasn't used by Susie in the green fight, this one is false.
- What did Ralsei say to Kris?
- Ralsei told Kris the Dark World is an Angel cage -> look closely at what Susie did right before Ralsei says this in the prison section. Susie attacks Lancer. given a particular situation she is forced to make Lancer the bad guy and fight him to the death. but if she is in the Dark World when this happens, nobody truly gets hurt even if she kills a Darkner. "so, that's why" we are opening Dark Fountains and fighting these seemingly meaningless antagonists: if we didn't do that, The Angel might take control of Kris and do that to the Light World. in this scenario Kris already knows about the ritual of keeping The Angel contained. they know The Angel's "special containment procedures".
- Toby Fox made Undertale "parasocial" for a reason
- Dess is merely hiding from the Angel / Dess isn't actually gone, she's hiding from The Angel -> if we accept that Deltarune is an Angel cage, then maybe the reason people don't talk about Dess is that they have to keep up the fake narrative she's missing so the player won't know what's actually happening and they can all buy time. by the time Dess actually reaches her goal, the player will feel bad for her instead of seeing her as a threat who set out to defeat and banish them, and might not fight back. alternatively, maybe something like this indeed happened but Dess failed halfway so now Kris has to do the same thing without ever letting the player catch on. it's a weird and funny coincidence that "December" sounds like a valid anti-Shadaloo agent name in the context of Street Fighter: June, July, December. someone who was once trapped, but now is secretly helping everyone else break out. is that intentional? I have absolutely no idea.
- Asgore, Toriel, and Asriel form a trinity around the values of Undertale / Asgore, Toriel, and Asriel represent comparing a player's connection to a game to a believer's connection to religion -> sounds really out there at first but becomes much more obvious when you've seen Deltarune with its mentions of The Angel. also brings up an interesting contradiction: Asgore is at first presented as some kind of king of demons, but turns out to be more like the god of one religion reviled by someone else's.
- Asriel is the son of the Underground / Asriel is the son or avatar of the abstract Father of the Underground -> The Father would not literally be Asgore in this case even though Asgore has to be there to remind us of the concept of The Father versus The Son.
- Each of the seven fallen humans represents an act of playing through Undertale -> kind of uncontroversial when totally figurative but becomes more important as a literal statement
- Chara reincarnated into the seven fallen humans -> not sure there is evidence for this but it's definitely an interesting idea
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