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2718 (end of death)

O5-11 resurrected - a different way this time?

sees cognitohazard that at least for him, death is a fate worse than death leads later to Foundation attempt to destroy death

6001

SCPs and The Compendium live in harmony

a lot of the efforts going on in this reality are by SCPs? I really like that part of it

> we already controlled everything [S] fantasy Gramscianism

I have some doubts about the society models underneath this, but, honestly? I love this entry. this is so much better than a lot of them

one thing I don't like is how it feels like the people who wrote this don't know what progressivism sounds like and it feels like it's trying to construct progressivism out of the mean things people say about it turned around ironically

two mentions of the concept that mosquitoes are way worse than SCPs

6005

[S] Foundation trying to contain Social-Philosophical Systems

Foundation tries to dissolve telepathic network which is mostly harmless

6659

[S] Foundation trying to contain Social-Philosophical Systems

"gods" and "capitalism" put on equal footing

7000

Dr. Weddell makes a (forgotten) sacrifice to take other people's bad fortune

is there any difference between this and any other kind of martyr? think about it, every capitalist claims to be this kind of "hero"

7999

[S] SCPs referred to as wonders

8400

[S] forest beings turning into trees

Pitch haven

3240

homeless people mad at the awful people who support them with supposed generosity - Existentialism, basically.

so, they are furious at plants, and eat their own flesh there's a certain poetry to how that almost makes sense and then goes to somewhere that totally doesn't. is this connected to the Sarkites / 610? logically it has to be, doesn't it? I really think there was one little thing about the Sarkites sharing flesh in the earlier entries

also. this reminds me vaguely of that really cursed Katalyka kickstarter, only somehow omitting the blatant racism. they merely hate plants, but they've made their entire belief system around whether you're on the side of plants or not

- when it all breaks, the cud-chewers will die > we will turn our fangs inward to the bone

Pitch Haven

are there... two continuities about animals and Christianity? I have to wonder if they have anything to do with each other

[edit:] what confuses me more is whether Pitch Haven is connected to 3240.

SCP-1845 - Animal Kingdom

2988 - a lot of themes in here similar to Black Adytum. only this time it's with a weird arm tree. the arm tree supposedly corrupts your blood and can be neutralized with charcoal? yep.

1913 2746 2940 1903 6167

Bellerverse

3-27

tales hub

[S] SCPs referred to as wonders

[S] bogus Slavic name - Spopovich. Dmitri Arkadeyevich Strelnikov. Kolokolnikov.

Primrose - mentioned here, first introduced in 6001

SCP-001 Black Adytum

part 1 -

Xenophon designed not to be vulnerable to potential idea hazards of flesh religion. this is its purpose, and what it does prove to be able to do

- Sarkics consume flesh so that the soul will not be trapped in the grave This feels like the end of death story about the cognitohazard is a justification for this

> no gods, no masters, she replied before eating him

I think this is an example of meta-transitional realism. a very weird example the way the Sarkic tribe creates an ideology of freedom in the form of what appears to be an atheistic religion, eating the gods, eating the ancestors, becoming in control of their own humanity in a particular way religion has a different meaning in the context of a setting with a strong supernatural element. here, religion is a mystical way of understanding a process of nature, but one which is as effective as physics models, with only small errors or omissions

part 2 - [S] ancient posthumans

wait wait wait wait wait this is some prime bullshit > what anarchy wrought ... iron rule of the priestesses ... > a way to enjoin them, making decisions together as a people. everybody had a voice ... with success spread evenly, and failures dispersed equally > a way to bind them together I think I have just witnessed a solidly metaphysical, alchemical description of government. I hate it. I mean, I think the Sarkics are saying this, so it's reasonable for them to use metaphysics in the story. but as for whoever would be writing this story, what the hell. what the hell man. I think this is a strong piece of evidence that writers are approaching fantasy settings projecting certain modern ideologies onto them no matter what, and that the ideology in question is Existentialism

> anarchy ... I really doubt this word would have been brought up at all if the author was deliberately intending to advance Anarchism; in that case I suspect the word would have been "chaos" or something. this whole description reeks of intending to be a description of "democracy" as somehow distinct from "anarchy", but one which isn't Liberalism > if one disagreed he was free to walk away and this is the dead giveaway this is schizoanalysis. this is an ancient free-floating tribe outright bringing up the Escape concept seen in schizoanalysis of course people don't choose to walk away from the theorist because that turns them into separate Social-Philosophical Systems, and choppification doesn't "bind people together" this ideology is really weird. it doesn't claim to be Anarchy, it doesn't enforce ways of being in the guise of destroying "inherent crime", but it sets out to specify the way to constitute people as a Social-Philosophical System. and it accepts the consequences of basically creating a social amoeba that periodically undergoes spontaneous divisions? it's nicely consistent in unsatisfactory ways. the purely ideological layer of this story is a great example of meta-transitional realism, the creation of a hypothetical Social-Philosophical System of political processes which is questionable in its understandings or foundations but determined in its efforts toward its goals, which are generally not harmful per se, and which thus has a certain poetry to it

[edit:] I think. they're inventing "government" of a population. it's not as complicated as inventing "democracy". the description sounding like Liberalism may be a misdirecting joke. [S] fantasy populations inventing democracy not allowed / who would want to invent democracy? this is how their attempt to destroy theocracy and slavery ultimately ends up in spontaneously reinventing monarchy (part 3).

the klavigars (sp? I have an audio version.) are clan members - horizontal relationships made to form a clan or tribe they subsequently also come to mean an ancestor who can share memories, though some of the memories have to be hidden or forgotten apparently

> bodies in the streets is this... Hannah Arendt's On Revolution? I can vaguely see the notion of free-floating factions destroying others to ultimately protect themselves, in the tradition of the Jacobins that, and the notion of French atheism or secular philosophy during the Enlightenment I think I'm onto something. this seems like a more likely origin than an intentional reference to schizoanalysis

sa'arn's heart - one of the important revelations of part 2 is that the Old Masters were using flesh arts to abuse the slaves thus in using their own abilities unwillingly "given" to them, the Nalka had to use the weapons of abuse to defeat the Old Masters this ties back to the Old Masters' twisted religion around the evil god that created the weapons of abuse at some point, I think in the later parts, it's shown that the Nalka still being tied to Yaldabaoth is causing problems which is to say......... that the Old Masters abused people because they had a Bad Wrong Toxic Culture, and you can only get out of the cycle of abuse if you make a Good Right Natural Culture. my least favorite idea in Existentialism and Gramscianism. this story even kind of slightly shows why it's dumb: the Nalka were in the wrong because they acted like they were a superior group of people versus their enemies. but the whole notion that culture can be wrong is, in a much more literal sense, to declare a superior culture, just through different parameters of "tolerance", "intersubjectivity", and "nonviolence". this plot culminates in the toxic Nalka leaving their oppressor's bodies in the street, and not consuming them like they're supposed to. it's funny we can get so deep into this that it seems perfectly normal to hear the Nalka/Sarkic use feeding the bodies to the people or environment as a common metaphor for love and acceptance and forgiving the enemy. sure. okay. if it's only a metaphor, why wouldn't you speak of the flesh city gulping people in as a positive expression? I swear this is the best thing to come out of that SCP, when you'd think nothing could turn that positive.

part 3 - devouring... defectors... caused them to turn into awful nationalists?

> I will not take any action you would not take exactly what I said about the Saiyan empire. if you have a really simplistic definition of democracy, nationalist monarchy can be indistinguishable from "democracy"

> demanded of the gods how they achieved immortality Journey to the West / epic of Gilgamesh, again. [S] mistaken quest to steal immortality from the gods

part 4 - > they all [forget] except for her [S] secret room full of books / elders' secret body of knowledge this is now reminding me of The Giver

> their paradise was built from misery Well that's a new one: [S] imperialism as Original Sin within genesis myth I think this is a different one from "built on the ashes of fae bones", because of its explicit references to the Abrahamic bible.

part 5 - > there is nothing alive in this city but her this sounds a lot like the Patchwork King entry. which I think is also a version of "the hanged king". could it be this is meant as another prior history for the hanged king?

part 6 - > there are few things she does not exert her control over And here's the part where Napoleon extends over Europe to spread Liberalism because nothing else worked to make anyone adopt it or to preserve it. [S] magic as bending the world to one's will

it's..... a lot to unpack how this story mostly has a good understanding of progressive anthropology and how history should be studied, except the moment it suddenly starts totally projecting European theories of how countries and government form onto other Cultures as the only way that Cultures could possibly understand countries. guys. philosophers everywhere. the European definition of "dictator" is culture. not the part of what actions or processes are abusive of course. but, the interpretation of why individuals or small groups seek to exert control, before they perhaps do anything bloody. that part. the world is not just one big family of individual socially-linked friends. being multiple "families", the "socially-linked families" of the world do not automatically seek to be nice and moral to each other. they seek to survive, and it often happens at each other's expense. because we're mortal. that's what's so frustrating, that this story, like many others, appeals to "mortality making us human" and tries to present death as some kind of equalizer that keeps people from having power, when it really does not have that kind of power to bring order or justice. death is just, chaos, entropy. it doesn't order anything. only life is capable of exerting effort to reverse entropy. but life exerts effort in multiple directions, not the same direction. that's the problem. if you believe life is power, then you believe that really bad things are required to balance out power, like hatred, war, or thievery. if you don't believe life is power, then you realize this is stupid, and it's actually the belief that life is power that makes people hate each other.