User:Reversedragon/comm/SCP
sees cognitohazard that at least for him, death is a fate worse than death leads later to Foundation attempt to destroy death
a lot of the efforts going on in this reality are by SCPs? I really like that part of it
> we already controlled everything [S] fantasy Gramscianism
I have some doubts about the society models underneath this, but, honestly? I love this entry. this is so much better than a lot of them
one thing I don't like is how it feels like the people who wrote this don't know what progressivism sounds like and it feels like it's trying to construct progressivism out of the mean things people say about it turned around ironically
two mentions of the concept that mosquitoes are way worse than SCPs
Foundation tries to dissolve telepathic network which is mostly harmless
"gods" and "capitalism" put on equal footing
is there any difference between this and any other kind of martyr? think about it, every capitalist claims to be this kind of "hero"
Bellerverse
[S] SCPs referred to as wonders
[S] bogus Slavic name - Spopovich. Dmitri Arkadeyevich Strelnikov. Kolokolnikov.
Primrose - mentioned here, first introduced in 6001
SCP-001 proposals
Xenophon designed not to be vulnerable to potential idea hazards of flesh religion. this is its purpose, and what it does prove to be able to do
- Sarkics consume flesh so that the soul will not be trapped in the grave This feels like the end of death story about the cognitohazard is a justification for this
> no gods, no masters, she replied before eating him
I think this is an example of meta-transitional realism. a very weird example the way the Sarkic tribe creates an ideology of freedom in the form of what appears to be an atheistic religion, eating the gods, eating the ancestors, becoming in control of their own humanity in a particular way religion has a different meaning in the context of a setting with a strong supernatural element. here, religion is a mystical way of understanding a process of nature, but one which is as effective as physics models, with only small errors or omissions
part 2 - [S] ancient posthumans
wait wait wait wait wait this is some prime bullshit > what anarchy wrought ... iron rule of the priestesses ... > a way to enjoin them, making decisions together as a people. everybody had a voice ... with success spread evenly, and failures dispersed equally > a way to bind them together I think I have just witnessed a solidly metaphysical, alchemical description of government. I hate it. I mean, I think the Sarkics are saying this, so it's reasonable for them to use metaphysics in the story. but as for whoever would be writing this story, what the hell. what the hell man. I think this is a strong piece of evidence that writers are approaching fantasy settings projecting certain modern ideologies onto them no matter what, and that the ideology in question is Existentialism
> anarchy ... I really doubt this word would have been brought up at all if the author was deliberately intending to advance Anarchism; in that case I suspect the word would have been "chaos" or something. this whole description reeks of intending to be a description of "democracy" as somehow distinct from "anarchy", but one which isn't Liberalism > if one disagreed he was free to walk away and this is the dead giveaway this is schizoanalysis. this is an ancient free-floating tribe outright bringing up the Escape concept seen in schizoanalysis of course people don't choose to walk away from the theorist because that turns them into separate Social-Philosophical Systems, and choppification doesn't "bind people together" this ideology is really weird. it doesn't claim to be Anarchy, it doesn't enforce ways of being in the guise of destroying "inherent crime", but it sets out to specify the way to constitute people as a Social-Philosophical System. and it accepts the consequences of basically creating a social amoeba that periodically undergoes spontaneous divisions? it's nicely consistent in unsatisfactory ways. the purely ideological layer of this story is a great example of meta-transitional realism, the creation of a hypothetical Social-Philosophical System of political processes which is questionable in its understandings or foundations but determined in its efforts toward its goals, which are generally not harmful per se, and which thus has a certain poetry to it
[edit:] I think. they're inventing "government" of a population. it's not as complicated as inventing "democracy". the description sounding like Liberalism may be a misdirecting joke. [S] fantasy populations inventing democracy not allowed / who would want to invent democracy? this is how their attempt to destroy theocracy and slavery ultimately ends up in spontaneously reinventing monarchy.
the klavigars (sp? I have an audio version.) are clan members - horizontal relationships made to form a clan or tribe they subsequently also come to mean an ancestor who can share memories, though some of the memories have to be hidden or forgotten apparently
sa'arn's heart - one of the important revelations of part 2 is that the Old Masters were using flesh arts to abuse the slaves thus in using their own abilities unwillingly "given" to them, the Nalka(?) had to use the weapons of abuse to defeat the Old Masters this ties back to the Old Masters' twisted religion around the evil god that created the weapons of abuse at some point, I think in the later parts, it's shown that the Nalka still being tied to Yaldabaoth is causing problems which is to say......... that the Old Masters abused people because they had a Bad Wrong Toxic Culture, and you can only get out of the cycle of abuse if you make a Good Right Natural Culture. my least favorite idea in Existentialism and Gramscianism. this story even kind of slightly shows why it's dumb: the Nalka (were they the Nalka in part 2?) were in the wrong because they acted like they were a superior group of people versus their enemies. but the whole notion that culture can be wrong is, in a much more literal sense, to declare a superior culture, just through different parameters of "tolerance", "intersubjectivity", and "nonviolence". this plot culminates in the toxic Nalka leaving their oppressor's bodies in the street, and not consuming them like they're supposed to. it's funny we can get so deep into this that it seems perfectly normal to hear the Nalka/Sarkic use feeding the bodies to the people or environment as a common metaphor for love and acceptance and forgiving the enemy. sure. okay. if it's only a metaphor, why wouldn't you speak of the flesh city gulping people in as a positive expression? I swear this is the best thing to come out of that SCP, when you'd think nothing could turn that positive.
> (retrieve example) is this... Hannah Arendt's On Revolution? I can vaguely see the notion of free-floating factions destroying others to ultimately protect themselves, in the tradition of the Jacobins that, and the notion of French atheism or secular philosophy during the Enlightenment I think I'm onto something. this seems like a more likely origin than an intentional reference to schizoanalysis
part 3 - devouring... defectors... caused them to turn into awful nationalists?
part 4 - > they all [forget] except for her [S] secret room full of books / elders' secret body of knowledge this is now reminding me of The Giver
> their paradise was built from misery Well that's a new one: [S] imperialism as Original Sin within genesis myth I think this is a different one from "built on the ashes of fae bones", because of its explicit references to the Abrahamic bible.